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John; August 11, 2021


John talks to Gary about vulgar comedy, racism vs. culturism, our black and Indian friends back in grade school, and which clique we each belonged to in high school. 

Day 11 of the August Daily Episode Challenge

I love George Carlin, but watched a good I love his question everything one that's just beautiful. He's actually the one that just says, you know, everything's bullshit and he just breaks it down. It's like Whoa, yeah, totally, yeah. But what's weird, though? Here's what's weird. Right. He broke that down in the S. I learned it in the s because I heard it then and then I've been fighting against it and trying to like inform people without sounding like a maniac my whole life. Right. And yet, wow, you nothing ever really actually were able to make sense of it in the S. Oh, sure, I we've specifically had that dirty words. I forgot the album. I know what it looks like in my mind. Definitely were advanced because my God, last of my friends and me usually around the I call it the single digit era. It's like we didn't know Shit. Well, when my no shit in the seven what happened, though, was when my parents got separated, my dad went through like the cool single dad phase. So he had a house with no furniture up in...

Sacramento, like a brand new house, Really Nice House. He had like one couch. We had the fucking picnic table in the kitchen and then he had the bean bag chair. He would work all the time. I had my drum set there and he would work all the time. He'd leave money for food and he just be gone. But he also had a we're just raising yourself. Yeah, yeah, but he had a record collection. I had like cheach and Chong up and smoke. It had Steve Martin, it had George Carlin, had a bunch of those things. And and you were how old around this time? So this was at seventy eight, so ten. Yeah, okay, so, okay, I get it now. It's because of your age. Your one year, maybe year and a half, older than I am. And that's specific situation where you have it right up, no parents around and a record collection of some really intriguing looking shit and then you put on it's like wait, this isn't music at all. These talking and then he says some shit like Shit, Piss, fuck, cocksuck the motherfucker and tits and like Whoa all of them at once. rewind that Shit. Let me do that. Yeah, I think for me, dude,... was eleven. I think was sixth grade going in the seventh. Is when I started hearing all like Richard Pryor Fuck Yeah, who else? Well, mostly knows. Having having the token black friend that has his black culture influencing me and my white culture influencing him, it's just like oh now, that's right, dude, that is awesome. That's like sharing culture right. Well, that was that was the the great friendship I have with Lawrence Man. I mean when he introduced me to like comedy and soul and all that Shit, I introduced my iron maiden and Metallica and all this shit, and he's just like I like this stuff too. I'm like, Gol, yeah, it's awesome. Yew. Now we were. We were tight, man, the merging of the mines. We were tight. Like how cultural, I mean how culture transcends things. I wish I had more black friends like him. I mean that's that's the interesting thing. Right there we were talking about racism virtue versus Culturalism, or colts, racist versus culturalist. Whole...

...right, his spit it out, John Right. It makes you wonder, like what causes people to drift apart? It's because you're not a racist, and I don't think he thinks you're a racist, but it is something about your culture, his culture, that changed well, no, he calls me pink neck because the n word did slip out of my mouth quite a bit sometimes around him, because it you don't say that word around me. Do you think you said it around him to test where the line was or what like? In hindsight, can you dissect that? I think you're on is something. Yes, I think there was a little bit of the test and a little bit of what I say test, I mean you're testing to see if you fit in. Am I cool enough to be able to say this along with you, because I've heard you say it like? That's what I meant the question as well. He wasn't one of those types like prior who said, you know, Nigga, Nigga, Nigga, Naga, Nagga. I mean, and if you say it right, you'll know because you get your ass kicked. Hey, you wait, it's the arth and and he...

...had to explain that to me. It's just like I did. What is it with that word that triggers you? And he goes, it's wooded, girl, youth. What did you think, girl? Well, even I won't say it because I clearly know what about that word would trigger a black. I didn't know at that time. So I wanted to learn. I'm like, Dude, what what is it that sets you? Cuts off with the her part, because you get you guys use the word, but you replace it with the with an AIG just to go nigga. Did you ever see roots when you were a kid back in the day? Oh, yeah, but I don't. I don't remember much of it. I just remember the violent part of it. That's about it. I just remembered they said that word a lot and I'm like, Oh, we can't say that word then, right, but that was like seventy six, dude, that was a long time ago. Well, yeah, I mean a lot of the if you think of the s man, there was still a lot of the racist talk in the movies. Yeah, for sure. Oh, definitely dolemite.

I used to be a big fan of dolomite. And what was the other one? Shaft, of course, was good car wash, all those things. But yeah, but was that white white dude using the GIRR part? No, definitely, okay, no, I knew like right away. I'm driving and I'm driving at the girl part. I remember being a young kid and tripping out when we came home from my grandma's house because she said that word and I asked my mamma I thought that word was bad. She goes out, yeah, you can't say that word. Im like all right, I just double checking. Why it's grandma say it. Well, grandma was born in one thousand nine hundred and three and you know, see, if it's not a you shouldn't say the word. It's or no, no, you can't say that word. It's you shouldn't say that word. Actually, I think she framed it like we don't, like in our tribe and our family we don't, because there was always like there's a thing. Yeah, it's like we don't say that word. I'm like, I get it whatever. So if I wanted to be part of we, I didn't say that word. Well, I think bringing in or having, you know, my first black friend at that age, bringing him into this House, helped... dad with being comfortable around them. I think he was. He called them them. Well, he had word a few times, but that's wild. My Dad's tops and he's an asshole and a fucking power punk authority kind of guy, but he never said that word. Weird. Your Dad's way older too, though, like your dad would be more like in my grandma category. Well, yeah, my dad grew up in the depression, so he saw some shit, not to mention gripped in Chicago. So I'm not talking about what he saw, I'm just talking about the common use of words back then. That was more. But he was also in the navy, which, because I've been looking going through boxes and I'm seeing pictures lately of his, is him in the navy with his squad, I guess you call it, and I do not recall seeing one black person in that photo.

Yeah, no, times were definitely more racist back then. They're probably didn't want black people on submarines with them. I mean, honestly, I'm not saying that that's a rational thought at all when I'm like, there might have been some unspoken thing back then. Who knows, it was a long time. I think you're right. I think it was more accepted in the army. Dude, let's not live. They were just thrown up on the front lines. Is Meet for the machine guns for the other side. Just, yeah, you know what I mean. So, like anything that was a safe job, like a submarine. That was like those are pretty safe. We're not going to put a black guy in there. Put Him in the dangerous jobs. But getting back to my dad, he was never what I would call like those people, you know, like the way the the KKK said Shit. You know, it's like little sure James nigger swimming back to Africa with a Jew under each arm. Member that. No, that's crazy shit. Yeah, and it was never anything like that. It's just,... know, they they should be. We're in their own thing, I guess would be the way to describe how he so he would be more like a Semigl Sey, like the mixing of it. I wonder why. I mean I it's we probably shouldn't even wonder why other people think the things they do. So let's not do that. But so you're saying he was more of a segregationists, like people are happy as when they're with their own I guess. Well, again, this is so long ago I don't remember. Yeah, I'm sure you never said it out right. It's not something people would say out right because it's something that we don't even talk about in high school. When you look at a high school cafeteria, it's clear that that's what humans do. They're most comfortable around their own. The geeks it with each other, the bands, people, the stoners, the black kids, that Chinese kids, that you know what I mean, they still just gravitate towards its own. I guess we just feel safer in a mixed environment, when we're around people that we think are like us. And I think I got lucky with Ignatia valley because I do not recall racism being a thing.

And it's basically how you described it. You know, you had each each race, Hay kind of hanging out with each other and and white people split up into their own you know I mean, it's not just one big white white race sitting amongst the others. There's definitely the ones that hung out by the tennis courts. That's I me raising my hand. And so I think, I think jocks and stoners were the most, shall we say, acceptance of other races into their groups. Yes, back to our the culturist thing. We were not racist, we were culturist. If you accepted that we were stoners, you were all welcome, which was great, because every cult every race, let's say, brought their own musical taste to our stoner culture. And I remember the first time Asian Indian, when I when I had...

...encounters with with them, it seemed they were always smelly. That was that was the first impression they did. They did have a different sand dude. In fact, between Your House and my house. I forgot what court was over there on that side of the street, maybe two up, I think, maybe rugby court. All Right, one of my best friends from back in the day who might have ended up going to the high school with you, if they still live there, was a shoe and I loved it him. Like he has a name, like you say, bless you every time he says his name. What's you exactly? Who? He's like a show and I'm like bless you. Anyway, I went to his house and I've freaked out like what the fuck, like what the fuck is this? As a little kid right pulled out, what the fuck is his voice? Because he had that smell. They had super shag carpets, like way beyond normal carpet length, all cattled walls right, and then then the we had that... the curry smell was all up in that shag carpet smell everywhere. I'm like, Whoa. Well, it was a combination of body odor mixed with the curry that I detected. I was just like Oh this is. Well, yeah, it was, because there was the impression of a fucking an Asian Indian. For me, that is apparently normal because they in their culture, again, the culturest thing. They shower less and use more fragrance, like what you call it Cologne were let's call it Cologne. I don't know what exactly it is. Could be put Julie Oil, but I don't want to like be facetious. So yeah, they shower less, use more fragrance and they cook with curry which then goes through their system and out their bowels and so their whole their whole house is like, Whoa, this is intense. Anyway, it was no worse than anywhere else and you get used to it after about ten minutes. But I remember getting hit in the face every time I went to as shoes house with that scent, you like, that just invisible cloud of scent. I canot like fucking Han Solo when they fell...

...into the garbage bit no offense. So wow, what an incredible smell you've discovered. Yes, yeah, it's funny say anyway. Yeah, but back to this, my first impression of Asian Indian. Now, so we'd so get into the culturist versus racist thing do if that sounds it's starting to sound like the more we talked about it, that it is pretty valid. Because who was? What culture would you say you were in in high school? You wouldn't say you were in the white culture, right with you'd be a Jock, a stoner, a Rocker, video club guy, like we were. We were. We had our own little like five dude group. So did we. What was the primary thrust of your culture? I would say ours was music and skateboards. Music, for sure, metal, metal definitely was the bond. Okay, so you're like a little metal crew, but we didn't hang around the stoners because we weren't stoner's. Yeah, no, it's understandable. So you probably didn't look like them either. So right,...

...because that's a thing in high school. You don't want to look like a metal stoner. If you're a metal square, wear for well, yeah, I didn't dress the wallabies and the fucking Derby, you know, the uniforms in dressing high school. Dude. I did wear rock shirts, though, but a lot of people that weren't stoner's or rock shirts, even chicks. Yeah, for sure. What did you wear in high school, dude? Most I never really thought about that. Like, what kind of shoes did you wear? Shoes, Jesus Christ, well, I mean you have. Apparently you wore t shirts. That's pretty normal, and then you wore jeans, like Levis Im guessing or something. Oh yeah, and then were what was on your feet, though, because that's going to make the whole difference of this whole outfit. It could like now I'm really curious. I was more into tennis shoes. I do not recall which ones I've was wearing at that time. I did not. To this day, I still do not like vans, just because they're flat and my feet are flat, so it doesn't help. I need an arch. I have vans once in a while.

I like when I say do a man. When I saw Joey Ramon on the cover, I'm like, Oh yeah, I'll get some of those for sure. I never wore combat boots or so dude. I was a big fan of Nike's, to be honest with you. Doc Martin's nothing like that. I got that shit later after high school. Yeah, yeah, I'd seen Nikes were funny. And now back to the wall.

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