Live from Emo Dojo
Live from Emo Dojo

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John; August 11, 2021

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John talks to Gary about vulgar comedy, racism vs. culturism, our black and Indian friends back in grade school, and which clique we each belonged to in high school. 

Day 11 of the August Daily Episode Challenge

I love George Carbon but watched a god. Ilove his question. Everything one has just beautiful he's, actually, the onethat just says you know everything's bullshit and he just breaks it down.It's like Whoa yeah, totally yeah yeah. But what's weird, though, here's what'sweird right, he broke that down in the S. I learned it in the s because Iheard it then, and then I've been fighting against it and trying to likeinform people without sound like a maniac, my whole life right and yet wowyou nothing. I you actually were able to make sense of it in the S. Oh sure,we've specifically had that seven dirty words. I forgot the album. I know whatit looks like in my mind, definitely were advanced because, my God, most ofmy friends and me usually around the I call it the single digit era. It's likewe didn't know shit well, when my no shit and the seven. What happened,though, was when my parents got separated. My Dad went through like thecool single dad phase, so he had a...

...house with no furniture up inSacramento. Like a brand new house, Really Nice House, he had like onecouch, we had the fucking picnic table in the kitchen and then he had the beanbag chair. He would work all the time I had my drum set there and he would workall the time. He'd leave money for food and he'd just be gone, but he also hada war just raising yourself, yeah yeah, but he had a record collection had likeCheethan Shang up and smoke. It had Steven Martin, it had George Carlin. Ihad a bunch of those things and you were how old around this time. So thiswas at seventy eight, so ten, yeah, okay, so okay, I get it now. It'sbecause of your age, your one year, maybe year and a half older than I am,and that's a Pacific situation. Where do you have a rig? No parents aroundand a record collection of some really intriguing, looking shit and then youput on it's like wait. This isn't music at all these talking and then he sayssome shit like ship Piss fuck in cocks, like a motherfucker in tits and likeWhoa, all of them at once, rewind that Shit. Let me do that yeah, I think forme Dude it was eleven. I think it was...

...sixth grade going in. The seventh iswhen I started hearing all like Richard Pryor but yeah, who else it mostly those having havingthe token black friend that has his black culture influencing me and mywhite culture influencing him. It's just like. Oh, no, that's right, dude!That is awesome. That's like sharing culture right! Well, that was that wasthe the great friendship I have with Lawrence Man. I mean when he introducedme to like comedy and soul and all that shit. I introduced the iron maiden andmetallic, and all this shit and he's just like I like this stuff too, I'mlike cool yeah, it's awesome! Yeah! Now we were. We were tight man,the merging of the mines. We were tight, like how cultural I meanhow culture transcends things. I wish I had more black friends like him. I meanthat that's the interesting thing right there we were talking about racism, Virversus culturalism or colas, races...

...versus cultural O, its spit it out JohnRight. It makes you wonder like what causespeople to drift apart. It's because you're not a racist, and I don't thinkhe thinks you're racist, but is something about your culture, hisculture that changed well. No, he calls me picnic because the NWord did slip out of my mouth quite a bit sometimes around him, because youdon't say that word around me. Do you think you set it around him to testwhere the line was or what like in hindsight, can you dissect that I thinkyou're on to something? Yes, I think there was a little bit of the test anda little bit of on what I say jest. I mean you'retesting to see if you fit in. Am I cool enough to be able to say this alongwith you, because I've heard you say it like that's what I meant. The questionis well. He wasn't one of those types like prior who said you know: NiggaNigga, Nigga, Nigga Nigga. I mean, and if you Shay it right, you know becauseyou get your ass kicked yetits the...

...earth and he had to explain that to meis just like. I did. What is it with that word that triggers you and he goesit's what I girl you? What do you think a girl? Well, even I won't say itbecause I clearly know what about that. Word would trigger a block. I didn'tknow at that time, so I wanted to learn. I'm like dude. What what is it thatsets you cuss off with the Er part, because you get you guys, use the word,but you replace it with the with an a just to go nigga. Could you ever seeroots when you were a kid back in the day? Oh yeah, but I don't. I don'tremember much of it. I just remember the violent part of it. That's about it.I just remember they said that word a lot and I'm like. Oh, we can't say thatword then right, but that was like seventy, so dude. That was a long timeago. Well, yeah. I mean a lot of the. If youthink of the s man, there was still a lot of the racist talk in the moviesyeah for sure Oh definitelydol am I I...

...used to be a big fan of dolomite andwhat was the other one. Shaft, of course, was good car wash all thosethings but yeah, but was that white white dude e was in the gir part? No, definitely, okay. No. I knew likeright way, I'm driving and I'm driving at the gir part. I remember being ayoung kid and tripping out when we came home from my grandma's house, becauseshe said that word and I asked my mom my mom. I thought that word was bad.She goes out yeah. You can't say that word, I'm like all right. I M justdouble checking. Why is grandma say it? Well, grandma was born in one thousandnine hundred and three and you know see it's not at you shouldn't say the wordit's or no. No, you can't see that word. It's youshouldn't say that word. Actually, I think she framed like we don't like inour tribe and our family. We don't because there was always like there's athing yeah, it's like we don't say that word.I like, I get it whatever. So, if I wanted to be part of we, I didn't saythat word well, I think, bringing in or having you know my first black friendat that age. Bringing him into this...

House helped my dad with beingcomfortable around them. I think he was. He called them them well. He had word a few times, but that's Wid, my dad's a top and he's anasshole and a fucking power, punk authority kind of guy, but he neversaid that Word Weird, but your Dad's way, older too, though, like your dad,would be more like in my grandma category. Well Yeah my dad grew up inthe depression, so he saw some shit not to mention grew up in Chicago, so we mnot talking about what he saw. I'm just talking about the common use of wordsback then that was more, but he was also in the Navy which, because I've been looking going throughboxes and I've, seen pictures lately of his him in the Navy with his squad. Iguess you call it and I do not recall...

...seeing one black person in that photo.Yeah no times were definitely more racist back. Then there probably didn'twant black people on submarines with them. I mean honestly, I'm not sayingthat that's a rational thought at all, but I'm like there might have been someunspoken thing back then, who knows it was a long time I think you're right. Ithink it was more accepted in the army. Dude. Let's not lie. They were justthrown up on the front lines as meat for the machine guns of the other side. Just a you know what I mean so likeanything that was a safe job like a submarine. It was like those are prettysafe. We're not going to put a black guy in there put him in the dangerousjobs. Look getting back to my dad. He was never what I would call like those people. You know like theway he the Kks Shit. You know it's like. Oh sure, dame is nigger swimming backto Africa, with a Jew, Wener each arm. Remember that no that's crazy shit yeahand...

...it was. It was never anything like that.It's just you know they they should be were in their own thing. I guess wouldbe the way to describe how he so he would be more like a setee like themixing of it. I wonder why I mean it's. We probably shouldn't even wonder whyother people think the things they do. So, let's not do that, but so you'resaying he was more of a segregation is like people are happy as when they'rewith their own. I GUESS! Well again, this is so longago. I don't remember yea O, I'm sure he never said it out right. It's notsomething. People would say outright because it's something that we don'teven talk about in high school. When you look at a high school cafeteria,it's clear that that's what humans do they're most comfortable around theirown. The geeks sit with each other, the bands, people, the stoners, the blackkids, the Chinese kids- that you know what I mean they still just gravitatetoward ditone guess we just feel safer in a mixed environment when we'rearound people that we think are like us, and I think I got lucky with Initiavalley, because I do not recall racism...

...being a thing. It's basically have youdescribed it. You know you had each each race ain't kind of hanging outwith each other and and white people split up into their own. You know Imean it's not just one big white white race sitting amongst the others,there's definitely the ones that hung out by the tennis courts. That's on meraising my hand and the way I think I think Jackson stoners were the most,shall we say, acceptance of other races into their groups. Yes, back to theculturist thing, we were not racist. We were culturist if you accepted that wewere stoners. You were all welcome, which was great because every cult,every race, let's say, brought their own musical taste to our stoner culture, and I remember the first time, O...

Asian Indian, when I, when I had encounters with with them, itseemed like they were always smelly. That was,that was the first impression they did. They did have a different send dude. Infact, between Your House and my house, I forgot what court was over there onthat side of the street? Maybe to up. I think it. Maybe rugby court all rightone of my best friends from back in the day who might have ended up going tohigh school with you if they still live. There was a Shu, and I love to him likehe has a name like you say, bless you every time he says his name. What's your name, exact co he's like aShu and I'm like bless you anyway. I went to his house and I freaked outlike well what the like, what the fuck is, this as a little kid right, Ipulled up what the fuck is his voice because he has that smell. They hadsuper SHAG, carpets like way beyond normal carpet, length all cannel wallsright and then then the we had that to...

...the curry. Smell was all up in thatshag carpet smell everywhere, I'm like Whoa. Well, it was a combination ofbody odor, mixed with the curry that I detected. I was just like. Oh, this iswhat yeah it was because that was the impression of a fucking, an AsianIndian. For me, that is apparently normal because they in their culture again the culturistthing they shower less and use more fragrance like what do you call itcolone? Let's call it Cologne, I don't know what exactly it is could be, butJulie Oil, but I don't want to like be facetious, so yeah the shower, less usemore fragrance and they cook with curry, which then goes through their systemand out their bowels and so their whole. Their whole house is like Whoa. This isintense anyway. It was no worse than anywhere else and you get used to itafter about ten minutes, but I remember getting hit in the face. Every time wewent to our shoes house with that scent you like that just invisible cloud ofscent not like fucking Han Solo when...

...they fell into the garbage bit. Nooffense is a wow. What an incredible smell you've discovered this yeah. That's funny upset anyway yeah back as my firstimpression of Asian Indian now so wet so get into the culturist versus racistthing. He that sounds it starting to sound like the more we talk about thatit is pretty valid because who? What culture would you say you were in inhigh school? You wouldn't say you were in the white culture right. Would youwould be a Jock, a stoner, a Rocker, a video club guy like we were? We were.We had our own little like five dude group. So did we? What was the primarythrust of your culture? I would say: Ours was music and skateboards music for sure metal metal definitelywas the bond okay, so you're like a little metal crew, but we didn't hang around the stonersbecause we weren't stoners yeah, no, that's understandable, so you probablydidn't look like them either right...

...because that's a thing in high school,you don't want to look like a metal stoner. If you're a metal square forwell yeah, I didn't dress the wallabys and the fucking Derby. You know theuniform I dress in high school dude. I did wear rock shirts, though, but a lotof people that weren't stoners war rock shirt, it's even chicks, yeah for surewhat what did you wear in high school dude? I'm always. I never reallythought about that. Like what kind of shoes did you wear shoes? Jesus Chris? Well, I mean,apparently you wore t shirts, that's pretty normal, and then you wore jeanslike Levi M Guessin, or something Oh yeah and then r. What was on your feet,though, because that's going to make the whole difference of this wholeoutfit it could like. Now, I'm really curious. I was more into tennis shoes.I do not recall which ones I was wearing at that time. I did not to thisday. I still do not like vans just because they're flat and my feet are flat, so it doesn't help IN, I need an arch. I have vans once in...

...a while. I like, when I do a man when Isaw Joey Ramon on the cover, I'm like yeah, I get some of those for sure I never wore combat boots or dude. I was a big fan of Nikes to behonest with you dock Martin's. Nothing like that. I got that shit later afterhigh school, yeah, yeah I'd, say s, work and now back to the wall.

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