Live from Emo Dojo
Live from Emo Dojo

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John; August 11, 2021


John talks to Gary about vulgar comedy, racism vs. culturism, our black and Indian friends back in grade school, and which clique we each belonged to in high school. 

Day 11 of the August Daily Episode Challenge

I love George Carlin, but watcheda good I love his question everything one that's just beautiful. He's actually theone that just says, you know, everything's bullshit and he just breaks itdown. It's like Whoa, yeah, totally, yeah. But what's weird, though? Here's what's weird. Right. He broke that down in the S. I learned it in the s because I heard it then and thenI've been fighting against it and trying to like inform people without sounding like amaniac my whole life. Right. And yet, wow, you nothing everreally actually were able to make sense of it in the S. Oh,sure, I we've specifically had that dirty words. I forgot the album.I know what it looks like in my mind. Definitely were advanced because myGod, last of my friends and me usually around the I call it thesingle digit era. It's like we didn't know Shit. Well, when myno shit in the seven what happened, though, was when my parents gotseparated, my dad went through like the cool single dad phase. So hehad a house with no furniture up in...

Sacramento, like a brand new house, Really Nice House. He had like one couch. We had the fuckingpicnic table in the kitchen and then he had the bean bag chair. Hewould work all the time. I had my drum set there and he wouldwork all the time. He'd leave money for food and he just be gone. But he also had a we're just raising yourself. Yeah, yeah,but he had a record collection. I had like cheach and Chong up andsmoke. It had Steve Martin, it had George Carlin, had a bunchof those things. And and you were how old around this time? Sothis was at seventy eight, so ten. Yeah, okay, so, okay, I get it now. It's because of your age. Your oneyear, maybe year and a half, older than I am. And that'sspecific situation where you have it right up, no parents around and a record collectionof some really intriguing looking shit and then you put on it's like wait, this isn't music at all. These talking and then he says some shitlike Shit, Piss, fuck, cocksuck the motherfucker and tits and like Whoaall of them at once. rewind that Shit. Let me do that.Yeah, I think for me, dude,... was eleven. I think wassixth grade going in the seventh. Is when I started hearing all likeRichard Pryor Fuck Yeah, who else? Well, mostly knows. Having havingthe token black friend that has his black culture influencing me and my white cultureinfluencing him, it's just like oh now, that's right, dude, that isawesome. That's like sharing culture right. Well, that was that was thethe great friendship I have with Lawrence Man. I mean when he introducedme to like comedy and soul and all that Shit, I introduced my ironmaiden and Metallica and all this shit, and he's just like I like thisstuff too. I'm like, Gol, yeah, it's awesome. Yew.Now we were. We were tight, man, the merging of the mines. We were tight. Like how cultural, I mean how culture transcends things.I wish I had more black friends like him. I mean that's that'sthe interesting thing. Right there we were talking about racism virtue versus Culturalism,or colts, racist versus culturalist. Whole...

...right, his spit it out,John Right. It makes you wonder, like what causes people to drift apart? It's because you're not a racist, and I don't think he thinks you'rea racist, but it is something about your culture, his culture, thatchanged well, no, he calls me pink neck because the n word didslip out of my mouth quite a bit sometimes around him, because it youdon't say that word around me. Do you think you said it around himto test where the line was or what like? In hindsight, can youdissect that? I think you're on is something. Yes, I think therewas a little bit of the test and a little bit of what I saytest, I mean you're testing to see if you fit in. Am Icool enough to be able to say this along with you, because I've heardyou say it like? That's what I meant the question as well. Hewasn't one of those types like prior who said, you know, Nigga,Nigga, Nigga, Naga, Nagga. I mean, and if you sayit right, you'll know because you get your ass kicked. Hey, youwait, it's the arth and and he...

...had to explain that to me.It's just like I did. What is it with that word that triggers you? And he goes, it's wooded, girl, youth. What did youthink, girl? Well, even I won't say it because I clearly knowwhat about that word would trigger a black. I didn't know at that time.So I wanted to learn. I'm like, Dude, what what isit that sets you? Cuts off with the her part, because you getyou guys use the word, but you replace it with the with an AIGjust to go nigga. Did you ever see roots when you were a kidback in the day? Oh, yeah, but I don't. I don't remembermuch of it. I just remember the violent part of it. That'sabout it. I just remembered they said that word a lot and I'm like, Oh, we can't say that word then, right, but that waslike seventy six, dude, that was a long time ago. Well,yeah, I mean a lot of the if you think of the s man, there was still a lot of the racist talk in the movies. Yeah, for sure. Oh, definitely dolemite.

I used to be a big fanof dolomite. And what was the other one? Shaft, of course, was good car wash, all those things. But yeah, but wasthat white white dude using the GIRR part? No, definitely, okay, no, I knew like right away. I'm driving and I'm driving at thegirl part. I remember being a young kid and tripping out when we camehome from my grandma's house because she said that word and I asked my mammaI thought that word was bad. She goes out, yeah, you can'tsay that word. Im like all right, I just double checking. Why it'sgrandma say it. Well, grandma was born in one thousand nine hundredand three and you know, see, if it's not a you shouldn't saythe word. It's or no, no, you can't say that word. It'syou shouldn't say that word. Actually, I think she framed it like wedon't, like in our tribe and our family we don't, because therewas always like there's a thing. Yeah, it's like we don't say that word. I'm like, I get it whatever. So if I wanted tobe part of we, I didn't say that word. Well, I thinkbringing in or having, you know, my first black friend at that age, bringing him into this House, helped... dad with being comfortable around them. I think he was. He called them them. Well, he hadword a few times, but that's wild. My Dad's tops and he's an assholeand a fucking power punk authority kind of guy, but he never saidthat word. Weird. Your Dad's way older too, though, like yourdad would be more like in my grandma category. Well, yeah, mydad grew up in the depression, so he saw some shit, not tomention gripped in Chicago. So I'm not talking about what he saw, I'mjust talking about the common use of words back then. That was more.But he was also in the navy, which, because I've been looking goingthrough boxes and I'm seeing pictures lately of his, is him in the navywith his squad, I guess you call it, and I do not recallseeing one black person in that photo.

Yeah, no, times were definitelymore racist back then. They're probably didn't want black people on submarines with them. I mean, honestly, I'm not saying that that's a rational thought atall when I'm like, there might have been some unspoken thing back then.Who knows, it was a long time. I think you're right. I thinkit was more accepted in the army. Dude, let's not live. Theywere just thrown up on the front lines. Is Meet for the machineguns for the other side. Just, yeah, you know what I mean. So, like anything that was a safe job, like a submarine.That was like those are pretty safe. We're not going to put a blackguy in there. Put Him in the dangerous jobs. But getting back tomy dad, he was never what I would call like those people, youknow, like the way the the KKK said Shit. You know, it'slike little sure James nigger swimming back to Africa with a Jew under each arm. Member that. No, that's crazy shit. Yeah, and it wasnever anything like that. It's just,... know, they they should be. We're in their own thing, I guess would be the way to describehow he so he would be more like a Semigl Sey, like the mixingof it. I wonder why. I mean I it's we probably shouldn't evenwonder why other people think the things they do. So let's not do that. But so you're saying he was more of a segregationists, like people arehappy as when they're with their own I guess. Well, again, thisis so long ago I don't remember. Yeah, I'm sure you never saidit out right. It's not something people would say out right because it's somethingthat we don't even talk about in high school. When you look at ahigh school cafeteria, it's clear that that's what humans do. They're most comfortablearound their own. The geeks it with each other, the bands, people, the stoners, the black kids, that Chinese kids, that you knowwhat I mean, they still just gravitate towards its own. I guess wejust feel safer in a mixed environment, when we're around people that we thinkare like us. And I think I got lucky with Ignatia valley because Ido not recall racism being a thing.

And it's basically how you described it. You know, you had each each race, Hay kind of hanging outwith each other and and white people split up into their own you know Imean, it's not just one big white white race sitting amongst the others.There's definitely the ones that hung out by the tennis courts. That's I meraising my hand. And so I think, I think jocks and stoners were themost, shall we say, acceptance of other races into their groups.Yes, back to our the culturist thing. We were not racist, we wereculturist. If you accepted that we were stoners, you were all welcome, which was great, because every cult every race, let's say, broughttheir own musical taste to our stoner culture. And I remember the first time AsianIndian, when I when I had...

...encounters with with them, it seemedthey were always smelly. That was that was the first impression they did.They did have a different sand dude. In fact, between Your House andmy house. I forgot what court was over there on that side of thestreet, maybe two up, I think, maybe rugby court. All Right,one of my best friends from back in the day who might have endedup going to the high school with you, if they still live there, wasa shoe and I loved it him. Like he has a name, likeyou say, bless you every time he says his name. What's youexactly? Who? He's like a show and I'm like bless you. Anyway, I went to his house and I've freaked out like what the fuck,like what the fuck is this? As a little kid right pulled out,what the fuck is his voice? Because he had that smell. They hadsuper shag carpets, like way beyond normal carpet length, all cattled walls right, and then then the we had that... the curry smell was all upin that shag carpet smell everywhere. I'm like, Whoa. Well, itwas a combination of body odor mixed with the curry that I detected. Iwas just like Oh this is. Well, yeah, it was, because therewas the impression of a fucking an Asian Indian. For me, thatis apparently normal because they in their culture, again, the culturest thing. Theyshower less and use more fragrance, like what you call it Cologne werelet's call it Cologne. I don't know what exactly it is. Could beput Julie Oil, but I don't want to like be facetious. So yeah, they shower less, use more fragrance and they cook with curry which thengoes through their system and out their bowels and so their whole their whole houseis like, Whoa, this is intense. Anyway, it was no worse thananywhere else and you get used to it after about ten minutes. ButI remember getting hit in the face every time I went to as shoes housewith that scent, you like, that just invisible cloud of scent. Icanot like fucking Han Solo when they fell...

...into the garbage bit no offense.So wow, what an incredible smell you've discovered. Yes, yeah, it'sfunny say anyway. Yeah, but back to this, my first impression ofAsian Indian. Now, so we'd so get into the culturist versus racist thingdo if that sounds it's starting to sound like the more we talked about it, that it is pretty valid. Because who was? What culture would yousay you were in in high school? You wouldn't say you were in thewhite culture, right with you'd be a Jock, a stoner, a Rocker, video club guy, like we were. We were. We had our ownlittle like five dude group. So did we. What was the primarythrust of your culture? I would say ours was music and skateboards. Music, for sure, metal, metal definitely was the bond. Okay, soyou're like a little metal crew, but we didn't hang around the stoners becausewe weren't stoner's. Yeah, no, it's understandable. So you probably didn'tlook like them either. So right,...

...because that's a thing in high school. You don't want to look like a metal stoner. If you're a metalsquare, wear for well, yeah, I didn't dress the wallabies and thefucking Derby, you know, the uniforms in dressing high school. Dude.I did wear rock shirts, though, but a lot of people that weren'tstoner's or rock shirts, even chicks. Yeah, for sure. What didyou wear in high school, dude? Most I never really thought about that. Like, what kind of shoes did you wear? Shoes, Jesus Christ, well, I mean you have. Apparently you wore t shirts. That'spretty normal, and then you wore jeans, like Levis Im guessing or something.Oh yeah, and then were what was on your feet, though,because that's going to make the whole difference of this whole outfit. It couldlike now I'm really curious. I was more into tennis shoes. I donot recall which ones I've was wearing at that time. I did not.To this day, I still do not like vans, just because they're flatand my feet are flat, so it doesn't help. I need an arch. I have vans once in a while.

I like when I say do aman. When I saw Joey Ramon on the cover, I'm like,Oh yeah, I'll get some of those for sure. I never wore combatboots or so dude. I was a big fan of Nike's, to behonest with you. Doc Martin's nothing like that. I got that shit laterafter high school. Yeah, yeah, I'd seen Nikes were funny. Andnow back to the wall.

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