Live from Emo Dojo
Live from Emo Dojo

Episode · 8 months ago

Deep thinkers might be/ More about debauchery/ With Bootleg Cowboys

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

  • Philosophy for Beginners
  • Leadership Vs. Following
  • Trivia … Ends in debauchery 
  • Gary and the Bootleg Cowboys
  • Paramount+ MTV app is void of music shows 

...and welcome back here's Johnny and Garywith today's signal jams, that's funny because I'm reading Thithat that girl, Vert Burt book still and it's still fucking cocaine and butfucking chapter thirteen cocaine and budfucking.Well, there's there's lots of dramato throw in there to but have to check itout. I wonder if it's onaudible, I want to hear the Audio Boeb Yeah. That wouldbe interesting if she did yeah dude, because, like I'm down with thataudible, I've been listening to philosophy today, Geti my philosophy on Nice, so you're doing philosophy, andI'm doing this endless quizapp thing, for I usually do it for about fifteentwenty minutes. Until I get sick, answering questions, okay, give me asample question: can you pull up the approl quick yeah hold on pup, Yep andI'll? Tell the audience where I learned about socrates, so apparently socrateiswas a dirty little fucking, annoying scumbag that roamed around the streetsand never bathed Ann. He was so fucking annoying. Eventually, society capturedasasen executed him. That's what I learned about socates!Why? Why Wow? Why? Why can you imagine like a two year old three year old kidwho goes why wild time, but he's still doing it in his fucking IES and s Yep Society said enough of this: Socrate ismother, Fucker kill him. Plato, though, thought he had a point,so he kept going. He kept going with it. Then Aristotle thought he fucking couldadd some shit to that. So with you listening to thisphilosophy, stuff are you? Are you grabbing anything from it oryou just kind of like o? Okay? That happened? Oh No, I'm grabbing quite abit yeah. Actually, I'd never really studied philosophy. It's not my thingright. I remember that's Josh's thing I live now and keep fucking going yeahyeah, the other past right. That's why philosophy didn't really grab me eitherthe philosophy, though the one thing that hit me today. So all thephilosophy is just fun: Thinkin, like thinking or finding the meaning of lifethrough thinking and to me that seems a bit and like naval gazing, like youjust looking at your belly and like op to do think it. That is a bit like JoshYeah, but so the one thing that stood out to me, though, was you know. We'vetalked about the idea that we live in a simulation. That kind of idea for sure.Well, philosophers since forever had had a kind of not so specific way oflooking at it, but definitely the same and there's is there is no reality.Everything is perception...

...so, unlike maybe a computer simulationthat requires a greater power or something above us or advance. Most old philosophers were just like they had a similar vibe, but it's like.Well, you don't know what is. This is just what I perceive and what youperceive and we think we're perceiving the same thing, but we're not evenperceiving the same thing and I'm like okay I'll go with that,because th y that could be applied to fucking anything like at's. True, weall perceive things differently completely and thin. Many philosophers,that's the thing. It's like well what what is real and then, if it's not real,does it even fucking matter and and then what does matter- and there arethose people out there. That will continue on their path of you know their own philosophy and notlisten to anyone else and then there's those others that preach the philosophyand others grab onto it and they're always looking for that philosopher totell them what to do. Yeah. I've never been that. That's the thing right. Idon't I've, never aspouse Yo like looking up to a leader to follow othing.This is a couple oin that you and I don't subscribe to. We don't worship.That's for sure. I think there's also a thing like I don't know. Maybe it's our firesignsin us, but like I don't just I don't feel anybody's capable of leading me,there's definitely millions of people that are capable of partnering up withthat are capable and more capable than I am, but not actually leading me right Ya, because you have your own vision onwhere you want to lead you of what I am and how I fit into all of this yeahexact right. It's like, if I follow you like Youjust, sacrificed you to followme yeah and that's how I feel like I'm notgoing to sacrifice me to follow you and your vision, because you haven'texplained what your vision is. It most leaders completely fail to explaintheir vision. That explains right there of why I had a hard time with my exgirlfriend and we've had those conversations before which she wantedme to do all the thinking that drove me nuts, what you mean like I mean becauseobviously everybody's always thinking but well I mean remember, she's Biblegirl, so her whole thing was that Bible and theteachings- and I guess you culd call it the philosophyin it yeah for sure what you subscribe to and she followed it. She did nothave her own way of thinking she. She put it out there to me that God isgoing to lead and she will follow so she's afollower yeah, give it to God, give it to God's hands to soul. So when I camealong and challenged her, it's just like what is it you want to do outsideof this? This can't be life. This is this is not life. This is being a slavein my opinion, but that's your perception right. This is what I'mlearning today in Philosoph. Exactly...

...your perception is that she's stuck ina cage of her own making her perception is that she's comforted by her beliefin a alternate being exactly she won't get out of that comfort zone. Yeah. Why? If you're in a comfort zone,why would you leave? That's that's the thing. That's the weird thing aboutperception for sure for sure. Okay, I can subscribe to that because of mysituation here is it's very comfortable because I know it's the easiest way todo things at this moment to well. I would argue that it's not easy,but I ' it's comfortable enough and I think she's the same way in that sense,I'm not talking out of term, but I think people that believe in religion.They don't know at all. They can't prove God exists, so they'r somewhatuncomfortable, but they're comfortable enough, knowing that they belong tosomething. So they go with that community yeah a belonging right.Exactly I waalot of Peope Yeah, YOU WANTO! You want to hear a question. Ilove trivyou. Do that yeah ut! Lay It on me. What's whatever sometime. Someof these are pretty difficult, and some of them are fucking real, easy. Sohere's here's a difficult one, all right. What causes the sonic boom of asupersonic aircraft? Is it doupler effect pressure waves, electromagneticfield or the lighten frost effect? It'swhat was number two again pressurewaves and no and her it's greatplaing towardspressure waves and it's not the doppler effect, the dopplers, a Wei, adifferent thing completely: That's how they measure radar and moisture airpressure and the third one electromagnetic field. No, definitelynot that one and the Fourth Lid in Frost, L E, I D En Frost Laden Ledenfrost, I don't know theBreakdi Frost, it sounds like cold left. Behn leave the cold, I'm going withpressure affected. First, I I think you're right, let's see what happensand you you would be correct, Rightt that was kind of somewhat simpleprocess of elimination, but cool Coola.

That's exactly how you play this game,because when I do it there is no time limit or anything they and what's greatis when I look at my score and how manyI've answered correct, I look to see Ho's everyone else doing right right.You can do that yeah and it says you are fifty one percent smarter thaneveryone. I love it s Hayin a little validation. Damn that feels good. Iwonder if they tell everybody that no it changes that was the highest. I gotnormally I'm in the es see I'm really Leery of people trying to manipulate meby telling me things I want to hear. I know so. Okay, Oh you want me o tellyou about this, my attempted date, sure sure if you don't want any morequestions. Actually I do want some more questions but put a pin in it becauseth that yeah no last one reminded me of the date thing. Okay, yeah pin in itmotherfucker fucking put a pin in my ass oforokay. I thoughti I love playinggames. I wish I can have see it, so I can ask you Queson I'll, tell you whatI'll give my ll get ou my podtect dude I'll get out the poddects, and then youask me whant Ta Tribu question and then I'll ask you a Pod, dack question: Okay, have you ever licked your own Butt Hole? If you could, would you lick your ownButt Hole? Yes, dus relly clean that fucker out. First,like real good in a bath, Oh yeah! No, you don't want to do it after a fucking,I'm not trying to taste my shit t's. Let's get that straight right, nottrying to taste my shit. No! Thank you. It fucking tongue ofgirl's, butt hole right yeah, but I get something there's arecipr reciprocity involved with that, like I get something out of that. Well,that's what I'm kind of driving at here is you lick her clean butthole. Youwant to make sure your buttholes clean, so I probably like her dirty buttle. Iwould just if, if was my girl, I would just lick her buttle. What Heck youtalking about! I'm already had shit on my Dick and that's Dine Na Nov on my tongue, Ni on my tongue,but Mama Dick for sureim cling ons down there, I'm I'mg just remind it like.Maybe we should go swimpling on. Let's go swimming first swimming. I got an idea: Let's goswimmin first, an make sure Orin in there make bit. Iall cleaned up, bleacs that asshole for you get it wow tackie. What the fuck is, this all right, so find a good one when you die dude. Whatdo you want to be remembered for...

Shit? Okay, we could arrange that Gary Gary Gary. I guess my biggest accomplishment hasto be the fucking taping of the shows. So you'd say you want to be known for,like a rock archivist there you go for sure. Okay, I like t way you put ityeah. Well, that's what it is I mean in history will show it as that, whateverpeople call doesn't really fucking matter, like people kind of like theJohn Marshallo video yeah, it's a good way to put it exactly how many of ther are you? Oh? Whatwe're talking about people? This is a great way. This is a great segue.Actually so we're talking about a project Gary worked on called thebootleg cowboys, and it's all about dudes like Gary, who, back in the daybootleg video concerts, so how many of them like you, belong to,like a tribe of bootleggers through your communication methods, right right,how many people are in your personal tribe and how many you're in theoverall community do you think hmm personal tribe is probably the guysfrom the movie. was that, like less than ten right, yeah, okay, tit's, nicesize, little personal, tribe and I'd say in the Grand Scheme of things? Are we talking globally yeah? That you're? Aware of because Imean you can't know w in the Third World countries or countries that arelike North Korea or whatever, but just generally is it in the tens ofthousands, hundreds of thousands like of the people who actually captured thevideo? No just in sure there's lots of erar breed now? Are you talking back inthose days ore? Currently, the one still alive, the the you guys who didit back then, who had to fucking smuggle actual film cameras, not filmBo Kno, videotape cameras, not digital fucking, cam telephones and shit likethat. Now that doesn't count anything actually I'll go inter a thousand I'llsay, probably hundreds worldwide. What yeah come on Dude? Think of it. Thisway, look at all the contrects I've done and the only angles that have everpopped up or either mine or my friends that were there that was Ip, Oh yeah, I mean todifferentiate to the listener. There's tons of pro shot stuff, that's not whatwe're talking about. You can tell if it's a pro shot. It's a Prosho, justlex SOM, Wer, nok an audience yeah and we're talking. I mean an approach. Otjust looks like something you would see on TV th, it's not special. It was madebecause that's what they were made t at's what they were trying to do. Thebeauty of bootleg is you capture from any particular person's viewpoint, andyou really get more of the experience instead of the TV production yeah. Ifeel- and this is why I started doing it- is because when I started watchingthose pro shot things they were just so...

...bad. They took away the live elementthat I would experience at the concert and that fueled me more and more towant to pick up a camera and go. I want to make my own my way. That's a goodpell. In fact you and I both brought up. Why that's a good point. It reared itsugly head last week when Metallica played battery on the fucking, a lateshow, with stens gold, hair, great performance, horrible video productionwith that Goddamn, one thousand nine hundred and ninety seven video sliceeffect that they just kept superimposing every cut. I'm like justleave the camera fucking loan, just let it go funny, bring that up. Eddi trunkbrought that up as well. He did did he like it or he. Oh, heated it to good smart man. It's just why I they didn't need to dothat. There was no reason to do it. Like all the camera angles were fine,they didn't have anything to cover up the band look gray. It my go so I meanback to your point: Thou the reason you shot videos, because you probably sawstuff like that from some of your favorite bands like Metallica andyou're like hell. Now we got to get in there and make a better video actually bringing it back to MTV. I'd honestly have to say those Saturdaynight concerts in the early s were another fuel, because you got theyou felt the live. Look. It wasn't shot on film waitwhat as what are youtalking about because I remember like Friday night videos- and I rememberlike some- they had a video version of TVs on Saturday nights. Had this thingcalled Saturday night concert and every Saturday night at eight o'clock, they'dhave a concert and the most memorable one was Judis pres screaming forvengeance. Is that like Westwood one or some kindof production who made that or like? Was it syndicated? What do you mean it was on MTB? Oh, I don't remember that yeah youweren't dude, you were. You were often Sacramento. I think right around thatTimeoh Yeah Sacramento didn't have cable. Then that's the Weird Shit Dude MTV came outwith everybody in cable in the bay area. Back in the days, Sacramento did nothave cable, so we had to go to the bay area to watch MTV. Here you go, but I knew people I had myfucking video cassettes, Wel yhet before we had MTV at thishousehold, I had to go over your friends house towatch MTV, especially when it first started. Yes, like some bootlegs Shitlike it', Lik porn or something I'm going to go, watch the litle MTV. Oh,you got a connection yeah man. No, it was one of those things where you know the neighbord be like dudefucking iron maidn, video on MTV, I'm like fuck. I can't watch mtvs. I comeon over Dude, see some MTV, I'm like...

...all right. Man Like a drug dude- andyou know if you fucking chaps my ass, oh here, checking out the paramountplus APP right. Looking at all the old paramount shows,there's some good stuff, the little Beevis and butthead on there, someother classic movies. Nice. I get down to the MTV stuff rightbecause I wanted to check out that real world reunion- okay, not bad, I don't know, I don't know or care whatpeople think about reality TV, but I remember being a young person watchingthe original real world thinking now. This is interesting. This is going totake off. I liked it when it first started yeah, so it was really neat tosee. Actually all the exact same cast come back to see like how people havechanged or not changed, so that was cool anyway. I was looking at that. SoI'm like fuck yeah. They got all the same TV stuff, liquid television, eonflux. I just saw that I'm like this is bad. Ass lets see head Bangers, ball,headbangers, ball, headbangers, but where the fuck is headbangers ball andI keep going like where the fuck is a hundred and twenty minutes inm likethey got all the MTV Shilt, accept anything with music in it. You're right,it's all because of the licensing issues with music, they can suck my ass,that's their fault. You know why, because Tick Tock seem to be able tomanage to license music, all they have to do is license the music and all thatrequires US payin a little bit of fucking profit. Well, no one said: MTVwas legit. You CLSI Gona ask Er Paratounser,whoever it is hm paracitic there was some Ranin stimpy. I think Isaw on there. What did I nop? I Bet I did. I think I saw something else likeRocco: It's probably on there, because that'sNickelodeon they're part of that family. I don't know, I think the Renon stimpyguy got canceled dude. What I think so I got to check into it,but I know hi's making a apparently it's someone's making a really gooddocumentary about him and Rentin stinpy or made it or it's out. I got TA. LookJohn Crreck flucy yeah that guy love that guy yeah. I think he got canceleddude his his art. I thought was just some of the best at that time: Ohbase witeeyed Super Gron bringing andthose fucking intense, close ups of like pimples and stuff like Whoa, whodoes that? That's disturbing dude, but your some nois Goblins, I don't like aone bit and and then fucking he actually gives like the the buggerslike faces and character, and Oh yeah yeah andthe wipes the book around tothe table and they start talking to each other. bookers are under there hey. What areyou daling social, real dude I wear to God do when I was watching that cartoon,I'm, like God, this guy must have been on some serious fucking asid when hewas thinking this shit, yeah or just had the balls. You know because a lotof people think of Weird Shit and if...

...you're giveng the permission to keepthinking weirder the stuff he came up with, wasn'treally that weird right mm, but the fact that he had the balls is like I'mGoingno not only make it I'm going to draw this anm going to fucking, spendthe time to animate it and give it voices and show it to somebody and likedare them to make a show about it. That's balls, dude, oand, now back to the wall.

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