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Episode · 10 months ago

Featuring NFT Artist "MaNiC//" on bipolar disorder and digital artistry

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John talks to Florida-based NFT artist MaNiC// about his journey from hospitalization for bipolar disorder to successful digital artist.

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Hey friends, welcome back. I'm John. This is live from Emo Dojo. Today we have an especially awesome guest, somebody I heard on twitter spaces. You know, a lot of times, if you want to get known as an artist, you kind of have to raise your voice, and in this case he spoke up. He raised his hand to speak in a twitter space as I was listening to and immediately I'm like, Oh yeah, that guy should be on the podcast. So he goes by the artist handle of manic and you can see they're in the title of the episode. How he styleizes that really cool. He's got a wild story, maybe familiar to some of you, especially those of you who have experienced in mental hospitals and that sort of thing, and it's really exciting. So we're going to talk about his journey from, you know, his initial diagnosis all the way till today and what he's working on and into the future with digital art and NFT's in that space. So it's super cool. I'm glad you made it. Sit back and relax. This is live from Emo Dojo. Might be kind of overwhelming to some, but I think you empathize a lot because you have similar conditions to what we have. How much do you want to talk about that? Do how far do you want to tell? I'm I'm I'm down to just talk, man like. I'm just trying to really make it. I'm trying to make it. Yeah, like totally, and I understand. To be able to make it in anywhere, you have to put yourself out there. That's right. Unless you know, then you're no one's gonna know about you unless they happened to discover you, and Yep, they share it, but how it Bo that's rare. You gotta put yourself out there and just tell your story, be real, and then you know, because I heard that. Really it's old. People usually buy into like stories. Yep, my wife's and was in the marketing and I told her my story and she was like blown away because it's quite the story, and she's like that's that's what you need to tell right. It's remarkable. That's like you know, that's your brand, that's you, and people, Yep, will buy into that. Yeah, it's so true, dude, especially with people like like us. I assume you just had a wild childhood and all kind of stuff. Will get to that in a minute, because I really want to hear that part like how you became you, but man as if you, if you're raise that way and you kind of fucked up in the head. A lot of times we'RE STILL TRAINED BY SOCIETY TO FIT into that society. So you just go in this you live in this conflicted life for many, many years until you realize like Oh, I've got to speak up, otherwise I'll just get shut to the wall. And you see what happens to people that just don't speak up. They end up dead or in hospitals, things like that. So good for you on speaking up. So how did you come to adopt the named Manic, for example? Look, are you going to call you that for sure, because I've been like peeping on your dead that's Um. Yeah, my real name is cool, cool, um, but since being in this whole and FT space, I wanted to have a name. Yeah, and the name Manic really fits me well. Right, right, I am like literally I have, you know, have bipolar, obviously, and I have it where I'm like mostly manic. Yeah, same, which is to me it's better than having the depression part, a hundred percent. That's that's really rough. So yeah, like I'm at, I'm like a lot of times mannic and I'm on medicine and everything. It's just still breaks through. So, Yep, that's where I was like, all right, well, manic. I like the way it sounds like the name and it describes, describe as like my personality and you know, yeah, I love it, love it. I have a marketing background too, so I'm into words, the shapes of letters, the whole thing. I fucking Love Manic. Thank you, man. Yeah, and I like and when I don't, you probably seen it on my twitter and the way I did it was, is, with the capital m lower case, a capital. Oh Yeah, Lord, I see, and I is added those like forward slashes there ord. Yeah, and I was like that's yes, it's my artistic mind. I was like, okay, yeah, can't be just the word by itself, can't be common upper case. The rest lower case, do some weird shit, and who would have thought to put the slashes? So actually, when I created the file for this particular broadcast, I copied and paste it directly from your twitter accounts. I got it right because as an artist, a lot of times that's all you have in the beginning is some differentiating factor that gets people to say, Oh, this isn't the mannic I'm used to. This is something new or, you know, whatever your name...

...happens to be. So that's pretty awesome and I like to tell people listening right up front. So, man, it's got a couple of different collections on Opensee, which is the market place for digital artwork called NFTS. Can you do you operate two or did I just happen to find one and then you change the name? Since I clicked it last because the link on your twitter by I went to abstract visions last night and it goes to something else today on guard. Yeah, seventy seven. Yeah, like being that I have like my creative mind, I'm always creating, and so it's really hard for me to like focus on like one collection. And yet, you know, so I like and you know, I know like for the most part in Nft it's important to have collections, you know, and try to keep things organize. It's just harder for me way. So I had this I started this new auction and it's going to be seventy seven pieces. Nice, just to keep it small and more focused for now, right. But I mean I have the abstract visions one and then I have sculpts by manic dope. I don't know if you've seen that. I have not seen that one. I have a lot. I have a lot of stuff. Yeah, sculpted by Mannic is, I do. I use blender. I taught myself. I'm blender Nice. You know the program yet ready? Yep, that's that's no joke doing so. It's no joke to teach yourself d software. So, my God, yeah, it my wife. She I was literally on the computer for hours and hours, tutor of the tutorial. Yep, and it's figuring it out and for the most yeah, I mean you could see my work. It's I named it sculpts by Manic. I love. I had like those and then I have I have just a mix of stuff. So, but with the avant garde. I'm going to make that seventy seven pieces. Right now I have twenty one pieces up, but I love it. Based when people get to know me and discover my art, Yep, they'll discover I've just so much. And the same I was just talking to a real life artist friend of mine last night and our biggest thing we both have, well, I have bipolar, we both have Adhd, and the whole thing is like, well, fuck, how do we get all this shit organized the way the market expects it compared to how my brain wants to display it? Because I'm like wait, I'm a painter, I'm a fucking drummer. I want to go record some mpegs and just put up drum beats. I'm like God, I need a new drum. I need a fucking account, a collection for that. And then you start running into gas fees and left and right and like well, shit, I can't have all the fucking collections. I need to get started. So then the weird process of having to shoot. I tell her it's like you have to take your puppies out behind the shed and shoot the extra ones in the head, and she's all know, and I'm like no, you got to pick one project. But that's just kind of the conversations we have. But I can't and she can't like like I got them all planned out and then I need to jump from one each week, because some weeks I'll just get bored of photography, a board of painting or whatever. So it's nice to have it. So having any kind of you know, let's call it chaos going under our head. It makes it both extra important to organize but also doubly hard. So now I appreciate that you got things sorted out to like that. Yes, so the newest thing is the avant garde one and it's going to avant guard seventy seven. It's going to be seventy seven pieces, and that's what I'm working on right now. And so, yeah, that's the same time, whenever I can, I'm still working on teaching myself the D art, which I'm really, really interested in, and then it's going to be like eventually more into the animation part of a really, when I first got into NFT's I stumbled across people. Right, that's sixty nine million dollars sail. Yeah, and like I was into like making money online and different ways to make money online, and so I just heard about that and when I heard about that I was like wow, like seriously, right, yeah, like a Jpeg, like I had to, you know, do some graphically, I told myself, graphic design, because I do print on demand, you know, for like Oh, yeah, so art. Sure, yeah, I just products. I'm on a I am on a platform I Amazon called merged by Amazon. Nice. Yeah, it's a good one. Yeah, so I have some success with that, but I've always been researching how to make money online. I even stumble across Bitcoin, like way back, like I think I got into it like in the beginning. Sweet, good for you, I just didn't buy enough. You know who wouldn't it? Would have known? Yeah, yeah, you had your bets, but sometimes, like damn, I wish I would have hedged a lot higher on that bet. But good for you for knowing, like, because that's that takes a real visionary to accept a new entire new constructs. It's like saying, Hey, dude, give me your gold and I'm going to give you this piece of paper. It's no, it's really worth your gold, and you're like, the fuck off, I'm keeping my gold. And it's the same way.

You have to like suspend belief to think that digital money will be the future. And once you do, though, it's clear that it's nothing. Will else will be the future. It's only crypto in the future. Yeah, and so, like, yeah, when I get into something I like, I go all in and I want to be the best at it and know all about it. But I tend with the bipolar sometimes. On mine wants to hop to this and that and this and that, but I'm really starting to realize I got to just stay focused and not spread myself too thin, you know, maybe getting to one, two three things and just be like become like an expert in those areas. Yeah, or at least become known for that, you know, as your voice or your style as an artist. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Tell me how you became, how it came to your knowledge that you have something wrong with your head, with your mind, like how long, how many years ago back did you find out? Okay, so I grew up in long on New York up until I was fifteen years old and my family decided it was it was good. My grandparents moved south Florida and New York was getting more expensive, so my grandparents were like, come to Florida, it's cheaper here and beautiful all that. So I basically had to leave, like my girlfriend at the time, my friends, which was, of course, you know, upsetting, shocking. Yes, traumatic. After Florida and we're settling in, I was not happy, and so I was in a depression, Yep, and I was like wanted to sleep all the time, have my shades down and you know, yeah, Cave live in. Yeah, and then all of a sudden it went from really down to like really up. Yeah, I didn't really catch it, HMM, but I a neighbor of hours her daughter has had on bipolar okay, and was like I think your son like has something. I think you need to take them to, you know, the hospital and you know, have them evaluated. Yeah, because I was like thinking, like I was thinking things that weren't true, like my self esteem was like Oh yeah, yeah, you know, like we're sure gone through that fasture. So it is wild. Yeah, and so I was brought to this mental hospital in West Palm Beach and, yeah, I went into a fullblown manic episode and I was thinking these things that weren't real, like I had special powers and yeah, all that kind. was in a fullblown manic episode. And like they originally diagnosed me with schizophrenia. Yeah, that happens to sometimes, for sure, especially when you have an a manic episode in the doctor doesn't know that a true manic episode looks very much like schizophrenia. Yeah, and skiso effective, they said, Yep, and so I was in there for a few weeks and then they were like okay, well, he had his diagnosis. Is bipolarum. So I got out of there and from sixteen years old up until twenty something years old, I was in and out of mental hospitals and drug rehabs and, you know, it was a really just tough time. Like it was like a revolving door, like, yes, mental hospital, like they I like was growing up there. I was like in and out as they knew your name, they knew mine, they knew money. They really, as you know, man its back. Yeah, I mean they just and it's common, and I would see people that I saw before and, yeah, it's just a revolving door. And then when I was like, I don't even know, nineteen or something like that, I was that was doing ecstasy and coke, not sleeping. Yeah, man, cocaine for a bipolar person is like heaven and Hell. Yeah, I mean for like ten minutes it's like heaven. Yeah, and I mean if you're when you're already manic, like you're already up. Yeah, anyway, so, like ecstasy, coke, no sleep, and I was I remember having like my heart was like racing and no sleep. I came home and my grandmother took me to the emergency room and I thought I died. Well, WHOA. I thought I had died and I was like, when they took me to the emergency hospital, I thought I was getting transported to purgatory. Oh, Whoa, and I had this whole thing in my mind and I was telling my family that I'm I'm dead, like that's mild. Yeah, yeah, this whole crazy thing. So they brought me to this hospital and I was in there for like like the Max time you're allowed to be in the in impatient hospital. I was there like...

...three months. Holy Moli Dude, that's a lot. Yeah, and I was in there three months and like they couldn't stabilize me. I was in my own land and and then they were like, well, we can't keep him here much longer, so we have to put him in the State Hospital. This is what they told my family. Yeah, and so, yeah, I was brought to Pember Pine, the State Hospital in Miami, and I was there in a place that was not fun. Yeah, because when you're right state hospital, you are among the the craziest of crazies, for lack of the I mean get it's a crude term, but yeah, getting around like like drooling and, yeah, attacking you, attacking staff. Yep, super medicated. People just zombied out on downs and get lobbies and stuff. Yeah, and that was me too. They had me so medicated, gained so much weight, I was literally sitting around drooling. But it like, but I always was like I would draw. You know, we're still you inside. I was still be inside with draw. I would even like write raps, you know, nice poetry. Yeah, it was just living hell in there. And flip out. You end up in the pink room, right, you know, they lock you in the room. And so I was in there for seven months until they finally tried this last resort medication called Clasaro, and that snap me out of stopping back into reality. Yeah, Wow, what is that? What Yah is there? Does that drug have a different name? Is it like I have a brand name. It's called Colazar. Real hell to check it out. That sounds awesome. I'm sure a lot of our listener's that's that's like the last resort medication. And Yeah, it's like it will make you gain tons of weight and literally be drooling. So they got me. They got me that and too bad to get back into reality. And then they got me on Lamichtel. You have taken limis? Yeah, yeah, and so I've been on that like years and I have been hospitalized for years and there's been some close you know, some close calls for sure. Yeah, you seem really selfaware, though, like like you could probably vary a ways that it's coming, like if a depression wave is coming, you could probably tell and you probably know how to hunker down or mania is upon you. You kind of know the rules. You know, hide the guy, hide the credit cards or that kind of stuff. Yeah, with the mania I just got, I start realizing like I really have to make sure I get sleep. That's yeah, yeah, and well, when I'm in these creative mindsets and when you're in the NFT space, my God, which never sleeps, obviously. Yeah, even if you don't have some form of mental illness like you, you might get one, you might start getting it, because it's is it's so fast paced. Overwhelmed at first, like I had to pull back to dudecus. I got into it like two months ago. I just I don't know, I found some mud and said hey, let's check this out, and we just dove in. Within about a month I felt like I was on acid. Every day I'm like Whoa, and having experience with, you know, medication and support groups and therapy. I'm like, this is not healthy. I have to figure out why it's not healthy, why it's triggering me this way. So if anybody's listening and you have any kind of mental illness or disorder and you're getting into NFT's just there's like three different nfts in my mind. There are the multilevel marketing folks, there's those, you know, high priced schemes going on, there are people that are building legitimate communities as best as they can, and then there are folks that are straight up artist like. Ah. So I always find myself, I like to be in that category, like I'm there for the art, for locking down copyrights into the future. Anything else I'm not that concerned about. I used to be a few weeks ago, and that's what was driving me crazy. I felt like the rocket ships leaving and I'm not on it. I've got to get on the rocket ship. But now I've taken a step back and realize, oh wait, my normal life was cool three months ago before I discovered nfts. So just chill the fuck out, get back to your art and, you know, don't let it get get carried away. Yeah, I mean it's definitely like emotional. Like, yeah, when I first got into I got into the NFT space, like I said, around the time people made that huge sell and I was dabbling with crypto and like it was like around the dope, the time dozed coin. Oh, yeah, hit five cents right then it like shot up to like almost seventy cents. Yeah, like that. And so I was like heavy into the Crypto for sure, and we call it I got some stellar looman's XCELM. Yeah, okay, yeah, and then I was in a discord for the first time and somebody from the discords, I mean, invite to clubhouse. There it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then in clubhouse I stumbled across and F t's Dot Tips Nice, and that was like okay. So I would listen in these groups and...

...learn and learn, and I was like man, like you got to get this Meta mask wallet and so many things. Yeah, that, and I was like, Oh my God. So then I was on a mission to figure that out. Yeah, and I figured all that out and now I'm like now I know, like if somebody asked me how to get into it and do all this, I could tell them exactly what to do. Yeah, that whole initially, like setting up the wallet. I didn't know about seed phrases and it was so ridiculous. I was helping my friends set up her ledger last night, right her hardware wallet, painting the ASS, and I just remember like Oh yeah, when I set mine up, I like had a whole hour set aside and I almost like told everyone in the room to shut up while I'm trying to focus. And I live alone, dude, I live alone. I'm like his shut up, I got a fucking do this. This might be my millions I'm like dealing with right here. So it has that weird like intensity when you start to address some of these things. I guess like to your point, just find a loving soul that already knows about it and have them try to walk you through each step, because it's fine. There's no yeah, and I've been like since, I'm so excited about him and telling like everybody, like I honestly like won't shut up about nft. I can't, dude, every time. And you're public right, you see something like that would be fucking good. NFT right there. You should be yes, yes, and my wife she's like, you know, I mean n ft land, and it's just like I really feel like I found my tribe. Yeah, I really feel like I found my tribe, which is amazing, and now I feel like I really know what I want to do. That's the most important thing. He yeah, I want to create art in this nft space and just grow and get my name out there. And I mean right, I guess be Amos and Nipt yeah, or known or like have a living known, like I don't need to be like super famous, but yeah, just have like a little tenzero fans on earth would be good for me if I had tenzero people that were like fuck, yeah, that guy's awesome. That would yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, like. And so, like I said, with Clubhouse, I was listening and listening and I was creating art like a maniac, like, yeah, literally tea blender and just just making so much art and putting it up on open sea, like tons of art and art. I made some sales here and there, which is so cool, because I wasn't even promoting it Nice Um, but then I was like, okay, to really get my d really be successful, I also listened. I'm also big into like personal development. Yep, you know, I listened to like Jim Ron and Oh, yeah, all, this is one of my favorites. Yeah, and so, you know, in order to be successful, you have to like put yourself out there, even if you're on call. Like Jim Rowan, when he was first starting out, before he was doing public speaking, he was extremely nervous and, you know, scared to get up on state and talk, but the more that he did it he became great. He would then he was became a great public speaker. And so I was like, all right, it can be denial day and I was like I'm just going to do it right and it and it. I forgot how it came up. It was just like the perfect time to like I got into them what he called the Crypto, I mean n FT called crypto pills. Okay, yeah, and like it was a discussion and stuff like that, and and somehow that my story came up nice and I told it and they were like, you got you know, you need to tell your story. He's like, they said, you have an amazing story and you could actually you could help people. That's right, yeah, you because there's people in hospitals right now that have access to podcast, for example, and if they stumbled up on a podcast of two people who are very similar to them, except a couple steps of evolution. Afterward, I fuck. I hope that gives them hope to because like sometimes when you're all alone, your family, your friends don't get you, they're all doing their best to support you, but you just feel like a fuck, nobody understands me and now I'm stuck in a box hospital I can't get out. That's a pretty low place. So, man, if but I do know that they have access to audio and they can listen to things, often on their own, with their own choices. So, yeah, your story does fucking help, Dude, because you were deep into it and my dude, it sounds Cliche, but, You look fine, but obviously that people. A lot of times people tell me that too, and like they don't see the dark fucking humanoid that lives beneath my face mask here, and I'm like right, do you have hard time taking compliments, for example on your artwork? Yeah, like, like, for example, like my wife she's like, how in the Hell did you whip that up so fast? Yeah, things you think of like because it's just I really like a lot of times I just like I use the waycom tablet nice, Yep, yeah, and I just start, you know, just sketching a line. Yeah, another line, and I'm like, okay, that looks like this, so let me keep doing this, and then all of a sudden it turns into something. Yeah, crazy. My...

...wife turns around for a second. That what you just did. That that's awesome. Yeah, that's a she's like, she's a big fan of my art. Isn't that great? And she's a very critical person. When you know, when something you know, she she's ruble about it. She's like, though, your arts amazing, right, she won't hold back. If it was shit, she would tell you, but it's not. Yes, that's awesome. I always ask are like like do you think this is good? She's and she loved it. Then I'm I got cool and put it up. So yeah, I mean I'm loving what I do and I just I'm looking forward to like the day where I can just really just make a living, right, picking money doing this and not and then also like investing in other projects, because that is not great really. That's really fun to me. I think so too. I Like I missed out on doodles. I love doodles. Yeah, me too. I missed that, but I love them. How that's my favorite. There the color block, all her the color scheme, just the softness and the I don't know, it looks like joy in a little bundle. Right. Yeah, good stuff. They're. Yeah, yeah, I missed out because it was like, I'm not not too long ago, is like I think it dropped down to like one e who like like like a few weeks ago, back when the dip, when ethery was like really pumping. Yeah, yeah, and I had enough eat to buy it, but I bought another, I bought another project. Yeah, and now, like, of course, doodles is like shot way up right, right, you know, you just you never know, because doodles and like Mecca were coming out at the same time, I think roughly, and Oh my got Mecca first. Yeah, and see what happens. Like they just totally diverge. One goes one way, the other goes another way. So, yeah, it trading and FT's, as a trader's a lot like. Well, it's even riskier and crazy than currency trading. Yes, so it's as fast, but it's even crazier because it has to like in these spaces, like listen to these Alpha Yeah, you know that, helpa spaces and stuff like that, because you could find some really good stuff. Yeah, and you can take the temperature of the room, I guess it's a good way to put it. And you just kind of get a feel like that person said something slightly snarky about that project, and do you look at their thing? Oh, they're fucking big ASS. Well, let's see, and you look at the PEA, the ment, the thing that they kind of mentioned off handedly, like, okay, Nope, that's on my no list now. So they have a lot of pull. I hope they use it sparingly, or judiciously, let's say, because, yeah, I've always I'm trying to be a champion for most mentally disordered folks. I always have a trouble because, depending on who I'm talking to, some people get offended and what you call these things, but anyway, the mind's conditions, I'm always trying to be a champion for them because a lot of people, I fucked up heads, are poor because they've never had stability in their lives, so they never established a career, don't have a bank account, and what we're saying things like, oh, it's only this, you just need to get a ledger wall, and they're like fifty nine dollars. Fifty nine dollars. I spend fifty nine dollars on groceries for two weeks. So they I mean so I'm always have a lot of empathy, like how do we get people up and even into the atmosphere to play with them, because they have to get in when you're on the white list, Yep, or like during the minting mending time. You know, we can right weight cheaper, and I think that's that's the way that these a lot of these guys are very successful. Yeah, and because it doesn't have to go up so much. You know, like I bought and I regret it, but you know, you can never tell. At least took a profit. Yeah, but I don't know if you know about the the what is it? The Wolf and sheep? Oh, this is all blown up today. Yes, you have. Well, the sheep blown up on twitter today, November, twenty two thousand and twenty one. For the record, I got two sheep and I got them for like dirt sheet. Awesome. I think it was like zero point zero two or some holy mother. Okay, I know, and I sold them. I made profit, but I hadn't. Who knew that? Like it today, I caught it and it was like one for eat. Yeah, they blew up overnight. Oh my God, yeah, almost overnight, literally, like literally almost overnight. But it is what it is. All there's there's always going to be opportunity. Yeah, but I did get to that good crypto, cryptogones Yo. Yeah, yeah, go tunes, Kryptunes, Kryptunes, kryptunes. Yeah, I got one of those because I really liked the art. So, yeah, that's a cool thing too, and I think most anything minted now it's going to be worth a lot. And I don't know, I always have this conflict between approaching it as an investor as an artist, because I'm like, well, I'm just going to keep making art. It's free for me to make art. Yeah, but then I'm like, well, if I sell some more this art, I can go buy some of that art that I like. That I can't do because I can't conceive of Shit that other people do, which is the fucking coolest thing about art. Ever. It's like, no matter how good or awesome you think one's own art is, there's always somebody doing something that blows my mind like Gough. It blows my mind in such a way that, like I can't even hate. I'm like a fucking got to love...

...that guy. I'm going to fucking set the bell on twitter and like all his shit. I feel like such a fan boy for some of these artists I find and I never would have found that had it not been for NFT's HMM. Yeah. So, like, I guess it's just a matter of figuring out my style and how I want to do it, you know, because it seems like the most successful projects right now are the PFP projects that have like, you know, the Tenzero, yeah, supply or five thousand whatever, at least a thousand right. Yeah, that's where all the hype is, for sure. That's where all the hype is. So, like, I want to, I really want to create like a project like that. It'll come to you, man, it'll come to you. Really to that myself, like it just yeah, and they don't either. To your point, those artists do it right, and some of these guys, I know what they're doing. Yeah, they go on fiber. Oh, yeah, of course, anybody can go on fiber. And if you put in Nft, yeah, K and F K on fiber and K and like these people will do it and I'll probably get it done in a few days, Yep, and then from there, you know, I guess you have to get like a developer. I don't know whatever, but yeah, I mean these people like even I don't like young guys, like teenagers. They're just tech savvy, right, they figure things out and they end up makings crazy money and it's just it's an exciting space. But I got to just be real with myself and yeah, man, build your brand. Yeah, because I do want to do like a PFP project, but it's got to be right now and not right now, you know. Yeah, I heard there's an old street where artist named bobby hundreds in Los Angeles. Yeah, bobby hundred, right, right. So I just listened to him on NFT now. is another killer podcast called NFT now, and he was on it just this past week, so mid November, two thousand and twenty one, and he explained his whole history of how he drew the bombs and all that, and apparently he's not fully into it. Yeah, he's like now we're taking a time where luxury brand, we're not going to reach the whole shitload. We already have the brands, the different bombs that we're going to release and we definitely have a vision. But he's like, yeah, it's not a big rush, we're here, we're here to stay. An they're doing good. They're doing good. It yips. When you have you know, of course you have the brand like a Straightam Yep. Think out with and E T's. It'd be so bad. Like yeah, to a people, though, right to a point. If your brand is already like complex con like that sort of brand, probably yes, but if your brand is McDonald's, probably no. I think about this a lot because if you a lot of the biggest brands, even in music, try to jump in and do a rug pull kind of thing and it's like Nah, this is a new world here, Bro, like this is the great thing about new artist. You just pop up from the ground and be legit. Yeah, I know there's a lot of likes the celebrities that like they think they're just gonna they don't know anything about this nft space or anything. When they do, they just see money. They're like I see it, you see it on twitter, like they're like, all of a sudden they buy a Crypto punk or an ape? Yeah, and they're like, Oh, I'm into it now, I just did this and then all of a sudden, okay, so you're going to just drop a project now? Yeah, yeah, or sometimes a lot of people like in the space. They don't. They're not going to really support that. No, and sometimes I fear. What if you owned like an ape, and then Jimmy Fallon buys one, and then Jimmy Fallon gets accused of some bullshit in a week and and then he owns an ape and now, by Association, the value of your investment now goes down because a celebrity happened to invest in it. I'm like, that's risk that's really risky. So, yeah, the whole thing about I think building a brand in the NFT space from scratch is going to be ultimately more successful than trying to bring in old world brands into the space, because that seems really dricky. I haven't seen anybody really do it. Well, I'm on a I'm on a mission. I am on a MI. That's fine of you right now, and I'm on a mission. The world is going to know manic and and I do. I look at other projects that aren't PFP's like with the Damian Hurst right, yeah, like Cois true collections, but not PFP's. Yeah, and so I'm like, well, I'm going to see if I can go that. It's a good model, that for sure. Yeah, in the whole art blocks and stuff like that. So I'm just rolling with it and just kind of finding my my style myself. And do you experiment with any other platforms than open sea right now? Have you tried any of the coins around the platforms? Yeah, I'm on Foundation Foundation. Yeah, Yep, Yep. Yeah, I got an invite to there and I put one of my own, one of my pieces on there, one of my digital sculps. Nice. I can't wait to see those. Yeah, right on my right, on my own, right on my under twitter twitter profile. Yet it's called skults by manic. Yeah, if you listen, you want to go check out his twitter profile. It is metaverse and ft art on twitter. Check that out. Yeah, and that's like so that's...

...like my alter ego, crazy metaverse kid, and I got the crazy metaverse kid, dot eth. Oh. Yeah, yeah, which we got that a lot, like a few months ago, because you heard about that, that air drive. Yeah, I got mine late to like a like literally like three days late. I saw the cutoff day. I was like October thirty one, and I think I got mine on the third and like it's that over it for the money, though. I'm just in it to lock it down so nobody else had a really. Yeah. So, yeah, crazy metavers kid is like Manic and AKA crazy metaverse kid. Yeah, Um, actually got the domain name crazy metaverse kids nicecom. Oh, yeah, because that's something else I do, is by domain name. I haven't done it so much lately, but I have some domain names I've been holding on too for years. Yeah, I'm because they digital real estate. Yeah, I've been all about like making property on yeah, for years, like it's digital real estate. And next now, once I can start selling my art, I want to buy land and sandbox into central land. Yeah, yeah, especially sand box. This is the this is the new world right now, and it's everything's this cheam is going to get. Yeah, it's just going to get more expensive as time goes on, as more people kind of flood into the new world. So, yeah, that's what's up, Dude. I collect domain names too, like I love them, because I have like a science to it, like I'm literally one of my book marks is this place called name check. So you can go in there in type to see if the domains available. Twitter, I mean all the social handles, will give you on one screen if it's available. Because if I'm going to brand something, the URL's just the first step. If the URL and I can't get the twitter, but I also and I can't get the fucking facebook or whatever the new thing is. I don't really do facebook much anymore, but I'm still I want my fucking name lockdown. Just forgot to do that. Yeah, I mean I love like. I love hold up second yeah, yeah, I love like the whole like making money online marketing domain names. Like I'm I read, you know Alex Becker, I'm not by name, so he's a big he's big in the n oft space, but and he's all he's a famous youtuber and he wrote a great book. And Yeah, so I'm, like always is just trying to just, yeah, nailing everyone, marketing, like personal development, just trying to just, you know, like this better myself. You know, and I'm a big believer in the law of attraction. Yeah, the success thing on what you want. Fuck, yeah, you will. You will actually attractive. Yeah, what you focus on gross is what they say. Yeah, like like, if you focus on what you don't want, like I don't want to be broke, I don't want this, you will actually attractive. Yeah, you're thinking what you don't want. That's right. And then, like my wife says it too. She's like man, like, how do you do this? Like you have that law of attraction. Like like I was in the Crypto I had my own little moving business, cool, and I just stall a sudden random somebody that was doing crypto and like, I mean, it's just that's what I did. There's a random circumstance. I was like in San Francisco on the evening of Chinese New Year and I was down by the beach. All the buses were stuck so they couldn't come down to pick US up. They just got stuck in Chinatown. I got stuck with this guy that was wouldn't shut up about bitcoin for like forty five minutes, just me and him at a bus stop seven years ago, and I'm like, I'm glad I met that guy. You never know how you're going to like find out the thing you need to know to get to the next stage. That's why I think it's so critical to just always be open minded and fucking curious, like dig a little deeper if you hear something that Piques your interest. Dig a little deeper, man, exactly. That's why I love life. It's so cool to connect with like minded people. Like it when I'm in a lot of times that people in the NFT space. They've they've liked to you done like the domain name thing, and Yep, a lot of people seem like they've already been making you know, trying to make money online, or I have made money online. So they all like ties in together totally, but with our art, with their actually creative output, this time with yes. So I'm just happy as hell to have stumbled across the N ft's and yeah and it's. Does it seem like your life is more aligned? That's one of the things, the kind of a constant theme of the shows. I think most people that suffer from mental illnesses or disorders are simply suffering because they're forced to get up, do a nine hundred and twenty five in a fucking box and do it again every day, every day, every day. I don't think humans are set up for that and I think if we're allowed to break free and like create art, I think a lot of people's suffering will diminish really quickly without any medication. MMM. But right now, like I haven't worked a nine hundred and twenty five in a while. Good, because I'm always I figure out like how to make like I like with the Merch by Amazon, the print on demand, like I've formed like passive income, like killer every month, like it's just a definite money coming in. Yep. But I also I have my own junk removable business. Oh Nice, and that's like the bread and butter right now. Do you find probably...

...fund a bunch of killer stuff. Do you like turn it into craigslist or marketplace sales or things like that too? Just pure jump junk. I don't have time for that. Yeah, okay, pretty much just junk. But it's a great business because I mean literally like say, for example, I pick up a mattress, like I literally take match to on the truck and that's like quick hundred and twenty bucks. Nice, yeah, boom, like right there. And then, once I have my truck filled up more than I go to the landfill and dispose a bit. But cool, cool, sick business. That's enss balance to like is that gets you in touch with the real people, the real world. That the idea that we generate and buy stuff and create waste. But then on the flip side you jump right into the full digital world where everything is our imagination. Yeah, I mean I'll literally do junk removal by day, come home and do this digital art. So how much time do you spend on twitter? That's a big thing I've noticing because a lot of times, as an nft artist, I would say eighty percent of your if you call that a hundred percent of your nft artist your job, if that's a hundred percent, I'd say eighty percent is twitter and twenty percent is creating. What's the breakdown for you twitter? I'm on Oh, all day, like not stop. Basically take it in your phone. It means on the computer. UND's actually it's a problem, but at the same time it's part of our job. Like yeah, gotta Chill, we gotta you know, like I'm on twitter, like got engaged, I got to show up and this r out oft post what you have of Abous. I'm like, Yep, posting, posting and posting and posting, and now I'm working on getting in the twitter spaces. And Yeah, that's how I found you, dude, because that's a whole nother, another level, right, because some people just listen to stuff. I was blown away because a lot of my podcast listeners don't have twitter accounts. A lot of my twitter followers follow me for years and finally like Oh, you have a podcast. So it just super different audiences. And by being bold enough to step out of your comfort zone in twitter and use your voice on twitter. Most people wouldn't think to speak on twitter. That be twitter's going to hear me talk, but you did. It's crazy. And the funny thing is is that my twitter account. I opened it in two thousand and eleven, Yep, and I never used it because I thought twitter was whack. Yeah, say, I just you know, I was using before. I now like now I don't even. I use instagram to post up some art. Yeah, for years in starting consisting, because you know, you have to. It's all about being consistent. Like if you leave the room, you've left. Yeah, so I'm like consistent. Well, you know, it's hard to like have tick tock and instagram and all this. But so, like, my main focus right now really is twitter and twitter lt it just blew up right. So used to have hardly any followers or not. Thinking crypto and Ft. it's like twitter. Yeah, and I hear that all the time a lot of people. They didn't go on twitter. Now it's like it. You see a lot of howd reactivated dormant twitter accounts and livening up from two thousand and eleven and stuff like that. And when I logged in I was like, man, this is from two thousand and eleven. Yeah, right, yeah, I got him. I got on twitter early because I've always been into you want to get that name, you know, going to get your at handle you want. I mean all those things. Any time I hear from New Shit, I go there just so nobody else takes my name. Yeah, yeah, with the whole like the domain name thing. But you know about the website FLIPPA? Huh? Okay, so it's a domain name auction. Okay, cool, yeah, I love that. By domain, you know, by domaining from go Daddy, your name, Che I got whatever. I'm I should go sell some. Yeah, and you can go on Flippacom and list them and and sell them, but let's see people doing that with their eath names and their test names and things like that. Tea. Yeah, did that eath. I just got mine. But Um, when I first got into an FT space, I got a dot crypto. Oh, yeah, I got a dot art just for art, because I knew it was going to be pure art and not necessarily coins. But yeah, it's just because. Yeah, get that sum. Yeah, and what do you call it? Had some got IOS. I like those Catty X Y Z's. I did. I did or I don't even know. Yeah, there's some X Y Z's. That's become a trade. Yeah, got I. Oh, I know it's for like tech, very yeah, and there's some cool stuff in io audio. I mean like a music industry can do io as well. And Yeah, and it Christ few years ago, like you could have got some great dot IOS, because now many, not as many, people are using them. Yeah, they look cool. Now it's hard to tell what you're going to actually get adopted to, because who knew? Like XYZ, I wouldn't have thought of, but once I heard it on a Crypto podcast, I'm like, all right, I'll go get some X Y Z's. So this is it? Is it? What is it called? Top level domain? Teo Field? Right, yeah, there's one that has been supposed to come and come out, come out up Um dot web. That sounds familiar, but it never has. Huh, never had interesting, and I was like waiting for it to happen because you know, then, if you could just find out about these early and just scoop up what you can. Yeah, Dude, you I found another thing because I was like, I grew up with like motorhead and...

Motley crue and bands like they used to put Oom lauts over there. OHS, they're use will. You can get top level domains with oomlauts in them, and I'm like, what the fuck? So I'm going to start art project with the top level domain that actually has an Umlaut over one of the letters. And the mind fuck is that most people don't know how to create the Oom l out letters on their keyboards, so nobody will know how to type my domain name. The literally have to see it on tshirts and on you know, graphics and things and Click. Yeah, can't wait. Yeah, check into that next time. You're the fucking round domain names. You can just get sit like Uber with Oom Laut. You. Let me see own loud. Yeah, I'm write that down, you said loud. Yeah, it was. It's spelled you M L A ut Oom l out, and it's just the name for European characters that have dots on the top of them. Okay, so like Uber. The word Uber would we pronounce it U Beer, but in Germany it has two dots over it's pronounced like Uber. So it's rights kind of weird, but I'm just for the esthetic value. I've always loved two dots, like Hog and Doss, motor and Motley crue, like what it looks cool. Yeah, my what can't I have that? I'm like, Oh shit, I can. Fuck yeah, I think in the back of behind the scenes, is created a long string of characters. So your real domain name is like x throw, xcel, three, five, seven, whatever, Bob. Yeah, I know, like Chinese domain names are pretty valuable, but yeah, I love that. Cool Man. Well, anything you want to share specifically. So I think we've got where people can find you. That's awesome and you're always welcome to come back. If you got a new drop or anything you know, just drop on on or call me and I'll mention it on a different show if you don't want to necessarily come on, for sure. So always happy to help. Love your story. I'm due. Your story can go so many different directions, because we could talk about meds, we can talk about what it's like being locked in, we could talk about the especially the transition. I'm most happy that you seems to be living your independent life. Is What brought you out of the I don't know, out of the mental cloud. Yeah, I mean, I'm just I'm like, I'm hungry, I'm must like I want this to happen really bad. So I will not stop until I can become financially free doing what I love, and so I'm just going to keep showing up, like you know, actually, one of my pieces of art was exhibited in in Manhattan. Wow, not n FT, you can the NFT NYC. Yeah, yeah, it was, is like a drop by a known guy in this space. You had one of your things shown up there aft and I see now, yeah, motivate, no shit. Oh, yeah, I've seen his account. Shout out to motivate. Yeah, I was showed, like my art was chosen from a certain amount of artist and it wasn't even like that many, but they happened to choose mine, so that was really cool. Yeah, that's fucking great. Dude, congrats. So was that a digital art shown in the real world on a screen, or is that it was? Actually it was in, it was in and in New York. Yeah, they had these art all over there in the subway with a Qr Code. Oh Dope, okay, cool, that's really neat. So so you're a still shot of your art is in the subway with the Qr code to the digital is. I don't know if they like took it down, but for a while it was all these artists work was writing. You know, I forgot where was. That was like in the subway. Yeah, good for them, probably leading right up to the locations nearest the right and it shortly after that that's when the whole d n FT NYC situation went down, and I would have loved to go on to that because that looks really cool and good place to network. Oh yeah, definitely. There's a couple of hearing them, both that and complex con is another one on the west coast, and then apparently the big thing down in Florida is going to be art basil Miami and a couple weeks. So yeah, there's a lot of places. Ben If you got it. Any of you to travel and get out. Who is a lot of good real life places to fucking interact, for sure. You are you going to make like some some kind of brand or way, because you know, if you go out in publicly, got a board a or something like that. You got a yacht club logo on your jacket or Hoodi or whatever, people can see you. Are you thinking of developing some kind of icon that people can recognize your work on? Like you got a supreme hat, I got fucking Emo Dojo shirt and you do print on demand. Some. I'm thinking, like what's next? You're going to make a identifier for yourself? Yeah, the manic, that the am like up we see up here in the capital, m lower keys A. Yeah, okay, killer. Yeah, yeah, I can't wait to see that. A be like my signature. Yeah, manic, sick, Short, maccom. Yep, it's taken them, I bet. I'm obviously for sure you're right. Short, don't mean name, but and Manic Dot eth is taken you. So whatever out. Maybe I'll get a different tld. Yeah, but the crazy metaverse kid. I got the crazy metavers kid, dot eth and I have crazy metaverse kidscom.

So that's a good one. What thinking when I thought of the reason why I got the crazy metavers kidscom because I was laying in bed thinking about N ft's and I was like falling asleep and I thought garbage pail kids, Oh yes, right, teeth. Yeah, so I was like garbage peel kids and my mind was like crazy metaverse kids, yeah, right, I'm so I was like make a project called crazy metavers kids, you know, and then just different characteristics and it could be really why iildlooking characters and do that going to be the PFP project right there? Yes, crazy metaverse kids, Yep, I already got the domain name, Yep, and I have my create. I'm the crazy metaver's kids. So crazy metavers kid dot eve right, and each case of Metavers iscom. I think their look should be depended upon whatever their mental illness is, like here's they can be really depressed David, here's Manic Matthew, that kind of thing, because I don't know what how the garbage pail kids got so ugly, like what's what made each one ugly? But you have a running theme already that, yes, I had to kid could have a different thing. Yeah, and they could be really, you know, crazy looking and you know yeah, abstract. Fuck, yeah, I like crazy metavers kids and they could be like C mk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that too. So I just like I got the domain name right away. was I have that taken care of. Now it's just developing that whole situation. I already stored of I thought about a whole story, but but that's just something I have in the back. Right again, it's back to the priorities, like so, Shit, I've only got eight other things I'm working on now, but I'm definitely keeping that one like that. I'm definitely, because that's like right now it seems like the really the that's like the hype is the Pie and seems like a fun challenge to do it right, because I would try to do it in a way that kind of, you know, addressed issues that I have problems without other PF P prong projects, then that huge issues. But just artistically and things like that, I'm like, well, if, instead of bitching about things, I always like to like file it for a project I have to do one day, because, like podcast, I kept hearing podcast Mike. I don't like the way that's done. It's too square, it's too like formulaic and like well, shut up and quit bitching about just make a podcast. See how hard it is, see how easy it is, whichever. So the same thing with the PFP project. You kind of want to like, I don't know, it looks challenge you, it looks fun, and it would actually because it kind of tickles a part of the mind. That be Badass to have a set of playing cards of your own thing, whatever that turns out to be. Yeah, I love that, man. Yeah, it's so cool. Like I'm a I'm a big Fan of Gary v and sure, yeah, me too. Yeah, and when he had his when he was talking about his own NFT's, like not even that long ago, when he was like saying I think they were like thousand dollars or a little bit over a thousand dollars, and I was like that's expensive, like that's riding now that one's gonna spend that. And all of a sudden they're no, and now they're like seconds. At one point, I don't eat, they were like forget, but like over fifteen eight or something like that, or even more. Yeah, and what? and to people that don't know about what we're talking about, so Gary v Vander check is a popular business motivational coach, investor guy. He turned his daily scribbles into NFTS. He like, you know, kind of crude scribble of a to can or something. They're cute enough and you can identify what it is, but snow you know it's not like high art by any means, but because he has a following and he he's high machine. Madam he turned his little scribbles on a Napkin, almost literally scribbles on an African, into hundreds of thousand dollars each. Oh my God. Yeah, actually ordered. He had this opportunity about if you order these books. Do you know about that? Yeah, I remember that. Huh. You have been following since the first drew a scribble. I'm like, what is this? And then it came out a couple weeks later, like Oh, that's your nft. What. Okay, like a few months ago, like he's putting out a new book, like twelve and a half, I forgot the name of it, twelve something, and if you bought twelve books he's going to air drop. Excuse me, Um, not, I don't think it's a V friend. Yeah, it's not. It's a new thing, a book friend. I think my wife was saying it. Yeah, he differentiates them so the V friends maintain their value. Yeah, that's like the originals. Yeah, so I'm going to be getting an air drop from Oh, you are dude sighted. Fuck. Yeah, and I was supposed to get I ordered like thirty two, but there was an issue that from Barnes and noble or a canceled one of the orders. Fuckers, because I would have gotten ended up getting three of them. Damn. That's still so. Also now I'm gonna hold on to that because, yeah, I mean, why not? To write a lot of the things that you like, I give away and FT sometimes to people I meet. They're like, oh, that's fucking cool. I'm like, you know what, I'm just going to give you one, because my thing isn't about making money with nfts right now. It's about making money for my kids and NFT's a generation from now. So I'm always like, yeah,...

I don't need your money right now, just like I don't know a grip kind of like as a street kids sometimes, and I remember the whole thing, and they used to give away drugs until they got you hooked and then they can try they could charge you anything. So I kind of feel the same way with NFTS. I'm just like, get people on. I could tell you what, if you set up a fucking wallet, I will give you something, just so you can know how to play the game and receive a thing from person that you know and trust. So exactly like I've given away, I've listened. So my AMT's for free. Yeah, you know. And so people, just so people could have my art in there, you know, in their collection, and if somebody else spread the love, it's this and then it'll click on that and it can take them to my collection. Yeah, Dude, I'll give people to you. Keep on and sell one if you can. Good luck selling. I mean it's and that's what you know. What I do. I'M gonna I'll go on my abstract visions account and I will make some better zero dollars, right. And so if it was interested, they can just pay the gas fee. Yeah, there you go. That's see, I think that's great. So, and especially if you know that person in real life and kind of hold their hand or walk them through and the Bam, now you've on boarded a new person. Yeah, so I guess I could. I could send you a lay. I'm going to go through my arm my so my art. Yeah, I think the abstract visions one. Yes, send me all your links. I'll put them all in the show notes. Anything you want. This is just fully promotional to get out of loader. The price to zero. So somebody wants to buy their first NFT or just have one, you know, the for free, they can just pay the gas. Yep, straight up. Yeah, I'll definitely send you that. How long have you been doing this podcast? Since like twenty sixteen. I worked out a fucking tech company that made software for politicians to run for office and we're like, yeah, anybody should be able to run for office. Well, trump wasn't allowed to use anybody software. They weren't allowed. He wasn't allowed to use the Republicans or the Democrats. So he fucking came and used our software, and then one and then I got depressed after that and just change jobs, change careers, got out of tax. Even doing this since two thousand and sixteen. Yeah, just off and on and sometimes once a quarter, sometimes once a day. But because I don't have like a therapist and I move a lot, set off as like a stable set of social friends or circles, but I have this like confessional. I just like get them talk, because if there's nobody like of his, no, guess I'll just get up and talk and maybe talk too much. Share overshare a little bit. But so, but there's a kind of a dividing line, like my employers can't find me because my name's not John Emotions in real life and people that know me as John Emotions on Emodojo don't care things to look for my real life person. So there's a nice little line there, but they're slowly kind of squishing into each other in the metaverse. So yeah, so you discover me in that twitter spaces? Yeah, yeah, weird. I think it was Keith Barry Space, one of the spaces he puts up there. And Yeah, good. Anytime someone's bold enough to fucking say yeah, I'm here, I have whatever something. If they acknowledge they have any kind of mental disability, I'm like, that's a fucking bold person right there, and need to talk to them. We need to encourage other people like us to go ahead and speak up. You know we'll have your back. Will for what it's worth. But also, I'm you, just good practice to get out there and fucking work out as muscles. PODCAST that I've been on just your first one. Yeah, Oh dude, awesome, you doing fucking killer and like you kind of a natural add it, and in the future I can imagine you just starting your own little thing. Dude, might as well, right. Yeah. And so another thing was when I was younger, like I wanted to be an actor. Oh yeah, yeah, my like my grandfather was a stage actor and so I would go see his plays all the time, and so I was like, I want to be in like I wanted to be ever since I was in kindergarten, like I knew what I wanted to do on to be an actor. Yeah, it's always pursuing it at an early age. And then I got into music and I actually I do music too, but I haven't recorded anything in a while. But yeah, so anything like artistic creative, like, Oh dude, you should do the same thing I'm going to try to do, not because everyone should do be like me, but because you're a musician and have that skill. So I'm going to put art to music and upload the whole fucking thing. It's like I'm going to take a video or screenshots of myself drawing a piece and then I'm going to go sit behind my electric drum kit and play original beats like those old fashioned like s intros to movies, or do literally and then something moves. I'm just going to make shit like that because I can. Dude, you can do your part, music, part, everything. Yeah, I mean it's really we're unlimited with the video photography, like there's there's project number nine for you. Another collection. I have some art that I that I made. I put music too, nice somewhere in in my collections. Yeah, I use a logic pro right. And Yeah, you make beats and keyboard noise, like what kind of music does it sound like? Like Hip Hop Beats? On Them I can make like hip hop beat, rights, like...

RMB, like techno type beats. Nice, another thing that I taught myself. I don't have to like read music, but same not. I've been popped in the music business for years. It doesn't. You don't have to read music. Strangely, it's a it's a ear thing, it is. Yeah, and so, yeah, like I'm even like a SAG member, like screen actors. Good. Oh, yeah, we'red what you used to do? What you do to get to your Sade Card? Yeah, so, when we were in we were living in New Jersey like a few years ago and I was I started up doing background where. Yep, an extra, you know, and so I was doing a bunch of that. Nice. It's pretty good, Hay, isn't it? For do not much, because you got to slip around on union. I was non union, so I wasn't making as much. But yeah, I was eating great. Yeah, set. Fuck, yeah, crowd, this is that time. Yeah, you're going to eat, and a lot of times eat really good. Yep, and you get a lot of times get paid for this, sitting on your ass like literally hurry up and wait. Yeah. So at the time, like I didn't really know about SAG or Aftra. Yeah, but Um, so one was saying that if you get into after now, at that time, you can get grandfathered into screen actors. Okay, well, I got into after that, you, and I think I paid like, I don't even know, like fifteen hundred hour. I forgot exactly how much it was. Yeah, but once that SAG and after merged, Yep, you are in. I was in Nice and be into SAG. Originally, to be in a sag you had to either get cast for speaking roll or you had to get like three waivers nonunion waivers and then you can be eligible, only eligible. You'll pay a lot of money. Yeah, I'll right grandfathered in. So, yeah, that is that's a card thing to get into. For people that don't know the acting industry generally, to get a SAG card you need to have an acting a speaking role, but you can't get a speaking roll often without a SAG card. Hey, you got a Alec Monopoly Shirt on. That's awesome. Yep, there it is, BRO official. I've seen his qr code and everything. It's got a SAG after a card. Look at these. These are Oh oh, dude, just just recurry each year. Yeah, you got to recurry. Yeah, you gotta pay the Dude. But I haven't Penn and I haven't done anything in a while, but I will not let that go. Fuck no, that's just like that's stupid to do. Yeah, dude, that's awesome, a SAG membership. Like yeah, because eventually I I want to get back into it. So yeah, that's next level. If you can get fame, you can turn all your project into your dreams. Yeah, I mean like even when you're sagging, you just do background work. Yep, that's good money too. Oh, yeah, hundreds of day. That's why movies cost so much to go see people, is because they're paying every single person in that background couple hundred bucks a day. Yeah, and if you're a SAG member and you're doing the background, word like you can make really good and actually I got a nypd police uniform when we were up there. Legit, man, you could. Yeah, because they pay you extra, like if you're wearing if you invest in your own uniform, okay, cool, because they need that in the background sometimes. Yeay. So I if you are a SAG member, you could actually go to the precinct in New York City and buy a real police uniform. Wow, that's wild, which is insane. Yeah, no, they don't really. They can't give you the real bad course. So I have like an NyPa to uniform and I use it a few times for like blue blood's sure, and then shortly after that we ended up, we had to move out of New Jersey, and so everything's on the background or with that, but eventually that's cool. Yeah, make it with this NMT. When I make it with this NF, definitely have financial freedom. Maybe we'll get another house like somewhere like I don't know. Yeah, you never know what comes dude. I was listening to Kanye on drink champs. I think, just talking talking this, that's a bipolar. He definitely does like people with buypolar we see it in other people, even if they don't want to acknowledge it for whatever political reasons or entertainment reasons. You know people anyway, but that's not really a secret. But that fuckers got a great point. I love his new thing. So when he was living in the Mercedes stadium, that wasn't a thing for him. He wasn't trying to make a show out of he's all. I live wherever. My whole goal in life now is to have friends in every city never pay for anything. Like I want to go to a restaurant in New York and people say hey, Kanye, come in, will feed you for free. Hey, come over to my house, you can sleep for free. So his whole dream now is to just live in a backpack. HMM. I'm like, well, your trip, Dude, but I'm like I get it. Be Nice to have that kind of cash to do it and up on it like like I'll see you know, like even Gary V. I'm like he must be like manic or hypomanic right now, like yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, no, for sure, it's when they throw when all of a sudden they turn dark. I'm like Oh, these definitely, because they could be hyperactive, maybe a dhd manic. But Connie's special, for...

...sure. On you. Oh yeah, he's, I mean he's been delusion. He's got both sides. Yeah, and well, you talked about earlier, when you get that that grandiosity, the ego inflation, I can fucking rule the world. He gets that pretty frequently apparently. But then again he's it's not horrible like you and I suffer from it. So like, oh, he's just the regular dude. The rest of the world seems to demonize him because of that, I think, and I'm like that's not fair. That guy's in a bad position. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, and Um, it's a double edged sword. Yeah, yeah, for sure though, because you have that like creative mind and there's so many great leaders and artists and actors and all, you know, people scientists throughout history that have this type of mind, you know, and it's just, you know, it's just, it's a blessing and it can a double Ed Sword. Yeah, no, yeah, I dig it. Like. But to your point earlier, I've definitely lean. If I had to choose, it would always be manic. I have no use for depression. I have many uses for mania. Yeah, it. Do you get the depressed part at all? Yeah, I have this running my mixtape. It's kind of fucked up. So I have this recurring like I feel like I hate myself, like the true depression thing, but it's working. Depression, I get up and I can fucking put on my manic front side. That's how I'm similar to that. Like, yeah, it, but it'll be like, for example, lately I'm like, I'm like, I feel like I'm not getting anywhere with this nftee thing. Yeah, but I have to keep pushing. You know, the mania helps me keep yeah, maybe I do what this PFP project, because that's what's you know, that's what's really popping off. But yeah, maintain your sanity. Dude. You're on the right you're on the right path and I think you're going too right. Speed right and put it out. What do you call it? I sold one piece great congratsman's from I was in a clubhouse group and I told my story and P for like Holy Shit, like wow, like that's crazy that you've gone through all that and so some it was actually my birthday even better, buddy, even better. What a great year was my birthday and one of the people in the audience, you know, and there's a lot of people in attitude space, that have a lot of money. Yeah, for sure. You know, then you have to have some kind of money to be able to buy these expensive pieces, because loudest is not cheap. NOPE, although when you're when you're it's so crazy. When you compare eth to Fiat, it's just like it's like it's you know what I mean, it's like still weird. Yeah, yeah, it's weird right. It doesn't seem like when you have like a little bit of eat. The a little bit of eat, the way it looks is comparing it to feed out, it's like it's just my it's we it is. Somebody said You should buy a ledger wall. They only cost point zero to eve and like, Oh, yeah, will you look at that way? It comes to that when I first was doing this and I listed up one of my nft's, I added a zero and I sold it for life. Forgot how much I sold it for, but it was too cheap, you know? Cause, yes, yes, get getting used to like this. How many Zeros you put in? That's right. Yeah, you always got to keep an eye and rushing and your foae mowing and you want to sell something real quick to jump into something else. Yeah, you can make a mistake and the people them people in like, what do you call it? I guess in clubhouse. They're all talking about what the project is. Somebody made a mistake. So if she sometimes you can get good deals if you sit by like some people. A lot of times people do that. Yeah, they'll point out a good project that has a mistake somewhere and there of a pricing mistake. Yeah, and you could see somebody, somebody messed up. Yeah, and that hurts and you're hearing the other one and yeah, hurts the floor for sure, because people just started. Because the floor, it hurts like your yeah, your real pocketbook. You made that mistake and I made that mistake one time, but now, like when I'm listing something, I like double check. Yeah, it's like a ten times mistake. Zero. Right, it's the difference between a hundred bucks and a thousand bucks. It could be a big mistake. Yeah, because the thing was is I sold. This is when I first got into trying to, you know, buy and sell them than up to flip them. Yeah, I bought something just because I was like I think this could do good, right, and I listed it. I woke up in the morning check my email and it was like it's sold. What you like to Queen? I was just crazy, like yeah, like, I think I spent like a hundred or something like that, because it was really not a big artist and he started blowing up and all the sudden like it's sold, it's sold to like crazy, right, almost two thousand sixteen hundred hours, right. So I had that eight and I was like all right, I'm gonna buy something's gonna buy something now. And I bought something and then when I went to list it, I added an extra zero. Oh Damn Dude, and I was yeah, I was like man, but uh, butverybody...

...else. Yeah, well, it's it's hard lesson, but it's a well, it's a well, it's a deeply learned lesson, let's put it that way. You won't forget. Yeah, I have not been scammed, like you know, that's one. You know that happens a lot in the space to when you're new. Yeah, I could imagine. I don't know. I'm just skeptical most shit. I'm like, I'm not clicking anything unless I know. Yeah, that kind of thing. But on discord, when they want to verify you, like, you know with that, what is it? Something bought? Yeah, I never I'm not going to very verify bought thing. Yeah, verify by it. I'm not. I'm not doing that, not but at all. For that Shit. It might be legit, but that's a I could do without it. That's where a lot of people get messed up, the newbies that get onto discord. Yeah, Oh, yeah, discords a shit show to me. I just I have a problem with like simplicity and minimalism and discord. Just, Whoa, it's like going to a digital jungle. Yes, yes, especially in really like if you ever go to be friends discord and you've been that one. Yeah, it's a show. Guy, to me, this is I'm like, what, how could you even read this? Yeah, yeah, that's wild man, so cool. A Dude, I really appreciate your time. You're, like I said, you're always welcome back here. I usually promote the hell out of this for like the next three or four days and then I start working on next week's podcast. Awesome. A lot of times, like I'm considering chopping these in the smaller bits and putting them up as and FT's maybe on object or something like that, where the low gas fee so off, just because I'm curious, like what happens if you put a fucking podcast in and F tea, I mean doesn't matter, not be there for posterity sake a thousand years from now. Okay, yeah, while true, swhere is going to be like on Youtube or these go out to damn itunes, spotify, audible, Amazon. Iheart all those places, all the audio, all the listening places, basically audible. Yeah, yeah, strange as I got onto audible about a year ago. Me Too. I love digital books and I drive a lot for my job, so I'm always listening to new shit. Well, mostly it's been any te podcast lately, but that's how I learned so fast. That's how you get uploaded or on boarded to something so quickly as if you just put your mind to it, you watch it. fucking five days of youtube videos or binge, listened to hours and hours to podcast. So yeah, I'd like having a just something. Normally I don't even turn on the cameras because sometimes the if you close your eyes and have a conversation, it's a slightly different conversation. So I'll test this. When I go back to listen to it, I'll say how yeah, that worked out just fine, because a lot of the people I deal with and work with are in the mental health space. I just give them the option of no camera on their side because body issues and a lot of people have body issues they don't want to be seen on camera at all. Me, I mean this is this has been awesome, like very natural, like and nothing didn't seem like awkward. Yeah, yeah, now, you do great and I think you'd make an awesome podcast host of your own. So, you know, throw that on another priority pile of list of things to do too. But Man, you've got your SAG card, you've got a great present presentation voice and you're very kind of focused on what you're speaking about to so it's not a lot of stumbling around. So I think I'd probably heard that in the twitter spaces which I reached out to you. Like, I didn't reach out to anybody else than twitter space because they were kind of boring to me. But when you start popping off. I'm like a guys, something special there. So I appreciate you, man, and keep up all the fucking killer work. And remind people. Do you have a website up yet? Just pointed straight on twitter. Okay, I don't have a website right now, so go to twitter, metaverse and ft art and you'll find them. Take it. Yeah, let me just double check that Roquick. I pretty sure met it first. And FC art. Yeah, that's the handle. So that's where manic keeps up all of his current social links. So jump in there check out his art. I'm not also going to put all the links down below in the show notes. So if you're clicking around on your phone or whatever, you want to go see some fantastic art by manic, click on those links down below and we'll see you next week at the EMO Dojo. FUCKING A and I know I've been super hyped about the nfts these past the three or so episodes, and I apologize to my longtime listeners who don't give a fuck about NFTS and also to my friends who have been harassing to make their creative works into nfts when they just men don't really feel like it. So I apologize for that and I will catch you up to speed on this because there is some drama on the nft twitter I have to talk about. So, in all the hype I've been talking about for the past three episodes, I need to warn you about the downside of nfts on the next episode coming right up. So I will post this episode up on Monday night and hopefully by Thanksgiving, Tuesday, Wednesday or whatever, I will have that second episode about NFT's like the dark side of Nfts, just for some...

...balance. All right, cool. Well, I'm glad you made it. Look forward to seeing you on twitter or whatever. Send me an email if you want. John at HMM EMO dojocom. How simple? All right, cool, take care. Bye. And now back to the wall. The the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the...

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