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It’s Kim from North Wales/ Giving us an audio/ Tour of her home

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It’s Kim from North Wales/

Giving us an audio/

Tour of her home 

G-Shock and John E. Motions take a quick jaunt to the UK to meet with their gracious host, Kim, from North Wales. 

Aha, welcome back to the EMO Dojo. I am Johnny emotions and this is signal jams. So today I thought it would be fun to bring you and Gary along on a quick trip over to north Wales. I don't know anything about North Wales. I didn't until we got there and we learned about it from a nice lady named Kim. Up to that point I just thought it was part of like England or something, a state in England. Now it's a totally different country. The native language is Welsh, which sounds like a mixture between Hebrew and Mandarin Chinese. It's wild. I'll tell you the name of her town, but it's the longest name of a town in Europe and I can't pronounce it. So anyway, let's have some fun. Let's drop into North Wales and visit with Kim. You live in a town. It's busy. It's not busy. I mean like even the biggest town around where I live is pretty quiet and pretty hilly, mountainy kind of thing. Is No one near US business, say like the city of Liverpool would be or something like that. That sounds pretty so how tall are the tallest buildings in your town? Probably my house and that's not very tall. So it's like a two story town maybe, like there might be a bank or a shop down in the busy section that has two stories, but is generally a kind of a low you can see the tree tops. Yeah, absolutely. I mean like, well, I'm talking to you guys now, I'm looking at the trees and yeah, I'd say it's you know, I also think that it's a really small place, but then some people say it's not as small as you think is. I'm like, well, yeah, it kind of days. You know, it's quite tiny compared toi and especially from like the US or you know, it's no amounts of high scale compared to the US, for example. So yeah, you know, we've got banks, we've got to sort of Prima. I mean that's pretty awesome. So, you know, it's buddy, with the way you're describing your hometown and your lovely accent, it's kind of pulls me off into a dreamland. I can picture it all very much. So well, this is working out. My idea is working. This is great. Yeah, it's like, I mean it's a beautiful, absolutely sudden place to live. Genuinely, you know, if you like this kind of thing. I mean if you like beaches without the sun, that's pretty cool, you know. I mean it's truly a sudden place. I mean my partner moved from a city to come and see me on holiday and he never left, I want, like eight years ago. So I mean it's got to be something about the place, not just me. Right. Oh yeah, for sure, like I've done the same thing. I've lived in cities in a it to the outskirts of, you know, the the country basically. And Yeah, there's a lot of a lure it, especially if you're just if you're over the whole rush. That's the high are you under a fiftyzero population? Oh, that is a good question. Do you want to googling on track, because I don't know the answer. So curious to see how many people live we are in your town. What kind of shops do you have? Do you have any like national chain groceries, you know, restaurants and things like that, or is it mostly local mom and pop shops? And it is an we're getting more and more chains over. I mean like you've got McDonald's, you know, you've got KFC, then you've gone. Mr Yeah, but you have got a really good fast share of homemade and businesses, you know, and homemade food places like the popes, you know, restaurants which are incredible. But there's like, for example, we I want place called the Laron Bilans. It's amazing. So now he gone from a little home based little shop to own in like for all over north Wales. So that's like yeah, so that I might be fine now actually, but if you know, since a lot, it's just incredible. But yeah, we do have like little I'll be things like that as well. which what sort of wood does Dylan have? It's a restaurant for shop. Yeah, it's a restaurant. It's all about sea food. I mean, for example, first friend is a sea food eat it. Yeah, it is incredible. Okay, and I'm you know, I'm not affiliated with him on nothing. I don't even actually know the guy. I know the people. It's like the place and it's the foolish. Is Incredible. It's all seafood and it's all caught by the sea where I live, which is even more incredible. Yeah, that's so. I get a question for you, Kim. I have heard time and time again...

...that British food is very bland. What makes it very bland. Oh, do you know? I I love my food, like I love trying different foods and stuff, so I will try anything about. When people say it's bland, I know maybe they're just thinking of one type of food. I've know, like everybody seems to say, like a British thing is fish and chips, which it is, but I mean like the fish and chip, fish and chips are absolutely gorgeous. Yeah, depending all. Yeah, go you know, an what fa? So it does. Some people just say, oh, Burger and chips, but again, that Burger depends on I love Wah. Yeah, and so do I. I mean it was just last week that me, I'm a party, went out there and we've got white based fish, which it and it was that. It was so nice. It was incredible. So and yeah, it's make it planned. I don't know. Maybe they don't use spices, I guess. I don't know. It sounds like it's probably one of those stereotypes we grew up with, like airplane food, old old folks home food, British food. They you know in America they say that, but I mean, yeah, it's probably just a lack of salt spices. Yeah, I guess so, and maybe it's the lack of knowledge of what food to where to go, as if to say as well, and you're young too, so you grew up with the Internet. So once the Internet happened, all food exploded everywhere. I mean everywhere. Anybody had the Internet. You could now start making what you wanted to. But you're in a particularly nice spot for fresh seafood. So that's pretty amazing. Absolutely. I my Granddad was a shaft as well, so I was like, I was really fortunate growing up, but you know you, I always got to taste different foods from different places. Yeah, it was incredible. Do you hang out at the beach? Is Your town close enough to drive to the beach on the weekend? It is. Is Close enough to walk to actually three of them? Yeah, yes, and I am beach is my safe space or on top of a mountain, and I mean most of my facebook tick topic such as full of beaches and just bore an old photos. But so incredible at the same time. And I love the beach. Yeah, genuinely. I'm even on a rainy so we day as well. I Love Beach. Yeah, in California there are, once you get up above San Francisco, a lot of the beaches are similar to those type of beaches you have. They're mostly fogged in, lots of Seagulls, lots of you know, just muted tones. It's not bikinis and palm trees by any means, but they're really romantic and calming. Yeah, absolutely, and, like said, yeah, it's perfect and it's somewhere I go on my own as well to get some inspiration for work, or it's also a place that I go and take my family on a nice day. And Yeah, it's incredible. So what do you do for work in town? Do you commute out to a city and then drive back to home, or do you tell a commute? How do you work? I don't. I actually work from home. I'm social tic ad manager and I specifically specialize in building communities online. Yeah, so that's pretty awesome. However, I have worked up until when I had my daughter, in schools and in crushes. So do you when you do community building online, is it for corporations or nonprofits? Nice, for Coll only and Shipponese that also work a lot online, and I did work with break and water businesses who wanted to pill it online. When the lockdown and came into play and but it is mainly speakers, leader's authors who have an online community. Got It. That's really cool. Ye, to do a lot of that work in Los Angeles for Software Company that is all about community building. So I know lots of makeing. Yeah, I linkedin. So here's weird. Right. I'm currently a work in the cannabis bissiness in America. This particular state I live in, cannabis is legal, so distribute cannabis. Well, before that, I have like the hugest private investigator group on Linkedin because I peripherally got involved with that and I just said, well, we need a group, we need to build a community. So I have that. And then I also run the biggest independent signmaker group on Linkedin because I'm like Oh, yeah, good, I've just been into the idea of community. Anytime you have a project, you need like a fan base, let's call it right, absolutely able or funally. Yeah, it's like speakers like you work with, they're finally catching on like, Oh, I need a fan base, I need a community. So I think community is just a new kind of a two thousand and fifteen word for fan club. But I love build. Yeah, I know you're all right, yeah, you know, I mean like it's nothing more powerful than that, you know, a support, supported child on again,...

...like a fun base. Yeah, no, tribe is the right word, I think, because that's the really primal urge for all of us is to belong, and to belong to something that means something outside of ourselves is really fun. So that's that's really cool work. Absolutely. I don't want to don't want to digress too far away from where you live, but I'm always fascinated about the work people, that people do, because after and where that, you're able to do it from wherever, I guess, and that's absolutely yeah. Now I'm just saying I mainly do work. I say I work from home. By work mainly on the beach, to on top of about a legit, on top of a mountain, and peopleully come. There you go. And I just found I've just found out how many people live in my little town and that is two thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine people. Two thousand, not even two thousand people. Wow, that is a little ham yeah, you dry shy your three thousand. Do you drive into town on a two lane road? No, we well, I mainly walk into town. Takes about twenty minutes walking to town. However, my daughter goes to school in another county, although it's only ten minutes way, and we drive and again that's a single road. Yeah, one road to LAS. Yeah, just so, yeah, it gets a bit crazy Down't there sometimes. But you know nothing about it because I drive to Liverpool and stuff a lot as well. I drive to big cities. But yeah, the roads are pretty weird. The scary people. It's so back road. Oh Yeah, yeah, I drive on lots of back roads. Fortunately Mars are mostly desolate, but not a lot of people in some of these. Well, yeah, I love the that you live so near beach because so, can you tell us more about the breakdown of the UK, because I'm fairly intelligent, a middle aged white guy in America, and I've always been sort of mystified about the UK because we talked about in the America. You think of the UK, you just think England is the whole UK. Now, I mean that's kind of like hyperbole, but I mean you know what I mean. So there's Ireland, there's Scotland. Is Scotland in the UK? You Got North and South Wales. How big is the UK? What all are those countries comprised? Well, what you said. When people mention the UK it's mainly London, which is he England, right. You know, people say, Oh, I'm coming to the UK, which you want to meet me? I'll be like yeah, sh way there in London. On this okay, that's like eight hours away from me, you know. On another one, like I said in the beginning, was card if I'm come, its Wales, you know, going to meet me. But yeah, so you've got, I learned by way makes moeography is not the Basta better than, and thank you well, mental magazines from back in the day. I gave me an idea of the UK. And now the tours go. Yeah, absolutely, Birmingham, and then you got Newcastle way up north. Yes, yes, you say, like both of them places, because my partner's no from me other so it's somehow. We go quite often anyway. So but yeah, it's like it's pretty huge im when you've got obviously you've got north Wales, South Wales, you've got whales in general. Then you've got England, which is just England. That you've got. I learned, I think. I mean, yeah, Scotland, it's well, not missing anywhere. I know. I think it's all the whales. Ones thing. Yeah, that mostly in your right that. It's almost like someone said, coming to the North America, you want to meet me and like which parts? Now can is Wales? That the same thing. Is Welsh whereby am? Yes, it's Welsh's a language. So I'm Wales. Is the country? Okay, like Danish and dinner. Yeah, what is the day? Is there much difference in the language between English and Welsh? Oh, yes, a lot. Well, I think that is. I think the easiest way for me to explain to you how Welsh sounds, apart from like talking, it, is to say that we say things backwards. So, for example, if English people say it big house, we say house bag. Okay, cool, it's yourself. So, yeah, it sounds very, very random, but we've got all the some Sun all this. I mean I where I live, it is the biggest name in the UK. So so instead of seeing you have a big house, you say house big. Yeah, basically, that's college. Really is this way of plain night. Yeah, so like to know me? House bake. Yeah, it's crazy...

...living a household. Yeah, it's probably one of the hardest languages to learn, although I was very fasha. I I was. Well, so I learned English, you know, rather than a lot of countries learn English as a second language in that respect, because, if that makes sense, yes, California with the Spanish. Yeah, beutiful, you know. I mean I found it easier. I mean my daughters is bilingual, so it's like was my part as English. She struggled to learn Welsh, because I see English at home and my partner and she struggles to learn Welsh. But that again, she exactly speak French. Pretty Awesome. So, yeah, this is something I'm learning for the first time in that Welsh is such a different language that it's actually a second language. It's not an adaption of English at all. It's almost sounds like it's Hebrew and in the way the the nouns and verbs are mistacked differently. Yeah, I wasn't aware of that either. Yeah, really cool. This Dick Enough Nuggets of information. It's pretty incredible. What do you do? What's the main form of entertainment, like live inner game? Where you live? Probably where I actually live. I probably say if any of the purpose get local bands in or local singing clubs, anything like that. Like you know, in Karaoke singing club you have, you do have Karaoke, but they do have live nights where we, one of our famous bands, will come down and like spend the night in the purpose singing and yeah, you know for Christmas parties and stuff like that. That's a quite a job starting round. Kim, that's a question I just want to get out really quick. What is one of your famous bands from Welsh Country and Wales? I'M gonna I can't name one. Let me think about it. I do, I do have a couple of favorite bands, but I don't want to like a friend anyone. Oh, yeah, this is all about that. Honestly, this is the least offensive episode we've done in a long time. Yeah, offensive, it just sort of name everybody. So from Wales in general. Right, yeah, it's yeah, and obviously I've heard of money street street preachers. Oh, yeah, I stead of funny. Seeah, well, they're from Wales. Okay. Yeah, in California Manic Street preachers made a big hit, big splash in the states, especially in the kind of that, I don't know, hip underground kind of music scene. Yeah, absolutely. Well, yeah, like I said, I don't actually know them personally. Perhaps, E. I just like their name. I was thought their name was cool. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. My mom got me into set up on next to be honest, and yeah, I kind of fell in love from them. But you've got something called Griff Chis as well, who is amazing and he's the lead singer of superfery animals. I don't make you heard of them. Superferry animal? Sure? Yeah. So he's like Putt Yours. And then you've got Casa Tonia as well, Clays Matthews. You got all them. I don't even if you know any of them. But you've also got Ellen flear as all, which she is just incredible. She'd say ages me. I think the last thing said Ellen Flynn and Ellen flair, which is the ble F Alue you are is the closed very first in your area. It's the what, sorry, the Glastonbury Festival. Is that in your area? And that is main? That's in England, I think. So it's not too far for me, but it's still a good far away, like because I it's people. Where I actually live is quite in the depth of an island. So like even chest which is in England, will take about two and a half hours for us, and that's probably the closest place that way. So it's really weird because they're quite far from everything, but not too far away. Yes, and you know what it sounds like. Just you know, it sounds like Gary, that she lives in a place similar to maybe Carmel, like dance, but obviously not an island. Carmel's down island, but foggy and close enough to San Francisco or San Jose or whatnot. But yeah, couplowers drive. Yeah, not too many people in town either, and sounds...

...pretty nice. Do People in your town, Kim, have nice cars? They do? They there? Well, to me they do. Yeah, as opposed to what you own. Walk Everyone's cars nice to me. Yeah, you know, I've got a good tub, but you know, cooky back, however. Yeah, but see, if that's what I was going to say, you mainly see bikes. Yeah, motorbikes and cycling bikes. You'll see see tractor quote bikes, many motors, random stuff like that as well. So that's very funny. Yeah, just down the streets on the quad. Sorry, drink it. Yeah, and yeah, we're not likes on half the time. So it sound like the farmers out here in Oklahoma. They just driving down the wrong side of the highway because they just assume nobody was at going to be out there now screwing around, like get off the highway. We we they were donuts here. What do they form? Yeah, anything, shape cows, as they call on then, but not call meat. They're beat farmers. Okay, cool. Yeah, we do have local metg and ch farms as well. What grows out there? What grows? Well, well, I'm not, I think to Tayos. Maybe that might be totally all. My friends are going to listen to us a little things like what's he talking about now, and what's your perspective? For sure, you know I mean. And we don't expect everybody to be an expert on every topic at all. Where like if you asked me about where I live, I don't know that much depth. I know broad knowledge, so I can survive, but there's always weird things that pop up that someone will say, did you know that this happened here right on this bottom? Like what? What? Yeah, it's funny. But what we don't know that where we live to sometimes. Yeah, I mean I our national and prower is caff from the duff bill is the leaks. So I'm guessing that is something that grows pret about how to Nice. What? How do you get most of your power out there in Wales? Are you like? Is it the steam or is it wind or water? Call what? I think it's wind. And we also have a nuclear plant as well not far from where we live via and it's been there for years. Obviously, and oddly I'm a big hippie generally speaking, but I think nuclear is sound. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know much about going into that. All I know is that getting Wi fi here is absolutely shocking. It's like it's really bad. But yeah, there's a lot of solar as well, which is great. I'm more more of the villages on the town's themely, are getting solders pretty good. Yeah, what is the village look like? When you say a village nearby? Pretty much like what I've described really, even though it's classes a town and to me it's a village. Again, what are the structures like? Because I imagine like tiny little brown wooden outhouses stacked along a road. That's what I think of a village. I think of an old timey cowboy village. I think it's the same term as town, isn't it? Yeah, it technically a village is smaller than a town, you know in if you, for example, Google it, but in the way that things low. I mean in our village we have to shop. That's pretty awesome. What I was in time. We have like three shops. The food pom okay, but the building is yeah, so the buildings, I mean like we have a lot of monuments as well. We have a lot of it. We have a bridge, you know, like a huge bridge. We have seas, we have rivers, but the house is the really nice big houses for a village, if you know, sure, if that makes sense. Yeah, like there's a place called Tahoe in California where everybody has what they call, quote unquote, cabins. Well, a cabin sounds like a little shack right now. These are Fivezero feet models with huge twenty foot glass windows and things like that. Do you still have cool castles nearby that are still standing? Oh, yes, we do, and we have paint much loads. We have quite a lot of castles. How about the CANNAB and Castle? Is, I think is the smallest pieces that stand in because that had to rebuild some of them. But yeah, the castles are amazing. I'm obviously they're two thors attractions as well, so I think the money keeps them going as well. And those date back to what...

...about the sixteen hundreds? Yeah, I would say so. Yeah, and and are there any with what I call the old school moat with the drawbridge? And yes, I think, being Marius, it's got one of them. However, I've not seen that one in action, but I have seen the one Canar burn. I don't think that works anymore. But, aside, as I know this wrong, three where I live, then might be more well in the south. Yeah, but I know one of them is totally out of use because, well, I'm pretty sure it's not safe. Yeah, I'd love to see one. So here's an idea. What tell me about your local slang words, like what is your favorite word for great? Like generically in America we say cool or awesome or radical or whatever, but what do you say for something that's great? What we take die own, which is basically great and Welsh, and we tend to say that if the person's English span age whatever we find. Repeat, I own die, you own die yew. It almost sounds die on it, does you think? Yeah, from and from an outsiders perspective, yet die own. How do you spell and DA? Then I a Wue and young dial I own it. Just yes, exclamation point and shout that out. If there's somebody scored a point at a game or something. Yes, we would. We talked about about for after it. Okay, yeah, yeah, it's something we quite long around here. Well, a lot low actually. Yeah, yeah, now this is the dirt. This is what I really want to know, because you know, if you don't have friends in another country, you never see them exclaiming on your facebook profile any words like these. So how would anybody ever get to know the other people slang? I love it. Yeah, absolutely, I've got friends on my facebook obviously speak weld. I think English because most of my work is to do with English. But yeah, it's nice to see some of the Welsh posts come up as well as like that. Yeah, I could imagine right. So if somebody was a jerk, let's say, is there a good jerk like what a? What a? What an a whole in America? Just want an asshole kind of thing. Is it doesn't have to be profane, but I mean, is there a word that's like that? Wait, me, I pretty much like most of my friends or family would say something like Kaho, which means like shit eyed. Okay, se again and spell it. Oh, spell it. I'll say it is cacord, which comes from cafe, which is Pooh, spell it, another word for poods. Very, very country has their own word for shit. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yes, that's pretty were own should but I felt see a see Y wr wow, I love it. We don't use any vowels. Screw the vowels. Word has enough. It takes them out. But it but it pronounces like Yiddish in that other word, the Dajuan almost sounds Asian. This is a wild language. I really have to dig into Welsh after we get off the air and start like digging into the differences. It's I'm fascinated solutely. It is very interesting. I mean, if you learn in Welsh you probably won't, won't learn the song you know, but it's this Flang that really matters. Work from the north, little to know. Yeah, I mean like in South ws I love South Wales. I got friends from there, but they'll say something like the right word for caricters modern, whereas I would say cutoffs. It's easier, it's faster and it means the same thing. So last afference between the north and the south really and plus, not many people from the South Speak Welsh, which is weird. Yeah, the south sounds way more English, you all because Moron is we use that word in America to yeah, however, yeah, it means a completely different word. I think crear doesn't end we we kind of offensive. Is that offensive over here? Moren is like a stupid person. Yeah, the definition. Yeah, I mean Moren forrasis cards, a caract so that's pretty weird. Yeah. Yeah, well, I would not have guessed that Welsh has a rolling of the ours in their language. Yeah, yeah, we have a lot of the we have a lot of the press turn against the tea kind of like a snake.

You were invaded by the Spanish and the Jews everywhere. So our things covid wise starting to loosen up there. How are things in town just going? How are you guys feeling? How's the VIBE? You know what the place here and where are you slip, which I've only been here for US six months, but timing its away in my other place. I'm here. The community is just incredible. When we hit the pander make everyone pulled together, every single person you know yeah, we helped each other as much as we could. We said high to each other. We may knock them doors to make sure that people were okay, knock the windows even, rather than doors. It was pretty amazing. But now, yeah, people, the pups are opening for outside. Kind of have to do that because of your little population, right. Yeah, yeah, I guess so. I'm quite. I want I wouldn't say I'm introverted, but I am quite. I like my own space. I'm my beaches, my mom join the club. Yeah, you know, I like people, but to to a certain extent. Yes, to be able to control the balance of people in your atmosphere. Yeah, yeah, common sense. Yeah, big cities are a bit much. They're little hype, a little over over kinnectic in the big, big cities. Yeah, yeah, it can get a bit, I guess, stressed out. It's such a drive into a big city and I'm I'm a lot used to it now, better than I used to be, but it can still stress me out. Whereas I can walk out my house and in my little straight there's five houses, that's it. So I know every single person and I know they'll be there for me if I need them. But I also know that they're not. They're nosy either. So it's a really nice balance. Sir, that sounds like a not because you also have the sense of community through your work, which I would have. I would, I'm guessing our entrepreneurs and things like that from Wales. No, actually, most of my clients are from the US. Kidding, that's awesome. Yeah, so you kind of get to interact or see or hear this slang words or just normal talk of Americans through your daytoday work I do, and it interests me. Every time I speak to someone has something different to say and like, like you mentioned before, I'm coming to America. Like, for example, I'm going to Disney visit Disney world and then joined me up the like we know. I live like three days or right. Okay, sorry, and so I am at see one of them people. I think that's common and that's part of why we wanted to put the show together and start seeming the various parts of the earth together a little more tightly. In California, for example, if there's a big earthquake, everybody outside of California assumes that everyone in California experienced an earthquake and it's not the case at all, California is so huge top to bottom. There can be an earthquake literally eight hour drive away and you're not going to be wow, yeah, and you could drive ten hours like sometimes in California you drive so long you count it by hours, not by miles kilometers. Wow. Yeah, see, I would have been one of them people that's all, oh, there's something happened California. I U Okay, you know, that would be almost like saying, yeah, I would like in California to the entire UK in size, well, just north to souths of and but we see it the same way. So if there's a some political event or some catastrophe in the UK, instantly in America we're thinking, Oh, I hope the you know, Prince Charles is okay, whatever. You know, we just we connect the strangest dots and sadly most out there that are out of state think California or our, shall I say, La is, California. I've talked to many, many people in the east coast and houst things going out there with that earthquake. I was like, dude, that's in La Man, that's five hundred miles south of here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I think like you know, I said I am one of them people, but the more and more I talk to people in the US I'm starting to realize that I and that's not always the case. And I'm like you guys a all you putting the show together, and I was like, okay, that is so cool. You know, you get to know places like when I come to the US, which I am planning, I'm coming to see you west, I'm going to write two separate states. Yeah, Gary is in California and I'm in the middle of the country, in a state called Oklahoma. We're separated by a thousand miles probably, and I'm by San Francisco. Oh, wow, wow, which is I have a he's he said he's by San Francisco, and I was going to say, which is a little bit different than bisexuals. Yeah, let's look into that one. I was just playing with him as fucker. Well, that's the thing about California. To...

Gary, I grew up in California for our whole lives and anytime anybody outside of the state would comment, once the Internet came around, they like, Oh yeah, are you guys gay? What that? Everyone in California's gay or a movie star like okay, I know, you know what. I know this is not your stuck in the same level. But people say, Oh, you're from Wales, do you like she be Shod Chap? I'm like, fucking we put them on the cliff and they back up right into us. I mean like that's so funny. It's yeah, Christ. So now I just say yeah, so whatever. Oh, yeah, Oh, Youh when I'd introduce myself from where I'd from, I'd be like, yeah, I'm from San Francisco and no, I'm not yea perfect yeah, well, that's another one, like how, you're from Wales, you speak well. So'm like, well, yeah, course I do, but then I realize that actually, okay, that's not such a dumb question. You know, it sounds like it might be where you live, but maybe not as dumb. And South Wales. Yeah, exactly. I've got a really big problem with people not speaking well in Wales, and I'm not against anybody who doesn't speak Welsh. I just I don't get that Welsh person accounts speak well. I can't understand that in my head. It confuses me. But Yeah, South Wales. I really generally do not know why they don't speak well. So because when I was growing up, I just thought, Oh, okay, everyone speaks well for around me it must be. Well, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. I wonder how they feel in like French Quebec Canada also, because they've that's always been a thing there too. You gotta speak both. Can You Canadian? Yea, well, they can. They don't have a Canadian they get either English or French for Canna. Well, yeah, yeah, Quebec City, I believe, is predominantly French. Yeah, and all of Canada has a law where all the signage has to be both. Oh Wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, say, where pretty evil around here. I was signs a while some not that. Where you going, scrood? Well, if for the sake of simplicity and business and Commerce, I always thought, like, why isn't everyone just agree on a language? I don't care which one, but and I'll learn a new one, whatever it takes. One like just figure out. Let's pick a language. It kind of defaults to English in many places, but that's kind of unfair. Like who picked English as the as the main one? Yeah, yeah, I get where you're coming from. Yeah, I do. It's like, I mean, like I said about my partner, he speaks Welsh. Now he's not very good. That I don't fet miss at that, but you know he tries, thankfully. So I had that moment. I'll never hear that any well, but he does stay crush on. He just has more and more. Like English is such a dumb language. Yeah, it's not, it kind of is. I'm in agreement. It's nonsensical, that's for sure. There's so many just ridiculously illogical rules that have. I don't know, there you'll start learning link and there's always an exception. It's like is everything in exception in English? Well, also the fact that in English language, I don't know if it is with other languages, but one word means like ten different things. Yeah, it's funny, you say, though, that's bizarre to make. Gonna say to we have three different words for one English word, you know, like Trup tramp, the road, road is road in English. I mean like we have what is it? I've got translate things my head. So like we call a drive something that we call a road something what I was in England. It's a road. I'm not it interesting us? Yeah, yeah, to we. So you don't have bulevards and avenues and things like that, not in north Wales and I don't know about South Wales. Now, I mean the name of my town. Do you want me to say it so you can go? Yeah, so to you joy. Yeah. Well, where I live it is called Shannolight footcorn gate, Googlo winthrawboys UN to the sale of Goo, Goo. God. That is legit. My village, my town name. That's all I lived. It's like, I mean tysolable. So I guess if someone wants to stock you it's going to be pretty hard to remember that name. Absolutely, I amsolutely. I couldn't even spell it because I remember now the way she's pronouncing it. There's there's tongue rolls and things in there that that's amazing. But say, I know the English version as well. Well, I'm let me translate it. So the English version would be some timing, like the Church of since Mary in the hollow contest of white tastel trees near the rapid world pool by so to to chill the oak of the right cave. I got okay, so that's why it's so long in wells.

It's long in English as well. Yeah, and it's very, very descriptive like that's almost not a name of a town but directions to the town. Yeah, well, right down by the church, left at the tree and jump over the creek. That's them. I never actually knew there was an English word for it, like generally didn't know, and then when I found out that was an English name. It sounds like directions, but as in Wowsh it's like places name places rather than directions. So yeah, just start on that. Yeah, that's crazy. Is there a lot of towns with names like that? They're not as bake, because that's the biggest in the UK, because longst town name in the UK. However, you do have Chandra, Schampberry, chanted no, so win, things like that. So, yeah, it's a lot of but your town is a particularly an anomaly. It sounds like with the yeah, that's really unique. Bay. That's super cool. I wonder at the City Council meetings they go like we need to shorten the name of this place. What should we call it? Let's call it Bob. Let's turn at the fence. Yeah, everybody has show and there. So, yeah, the short and did down to Shambay PG, which can still be a struggle. But yeah, CHEMOPG and I can fake that to a taxi driver somewhere. Ha Ha, that struggle. For you nonwell speaking people. It's it's awesome. Do you guys have a airport or anything within do you have to go to Liverpool to fly? Yeah, liver pull of Manchester the closest ones. Well, closest to us, as I know, the fleet. That brings up the sports thing. Do you guys do in your household or your town? Do you all particularly follow sports or any particular sports teams? My daughter, my comments from waging, so he supposed Wigan. However, my daughters and now because she plays football and she's torn between Support Income Ry, Wales or way. Game is creating tension in the family? No, it's just creating a little likeness, fun rivalry. Yeah, yeah, but obviously we I follow rugby because rugby is battle bakeground here, but I'm not a sport bigger than football. Running, yeah, very much. So aunt here. It's wow. Yeah, I guess that. I love watching rugby. I'm not sure which I prefer watching. Honestly, they're both pretty entertaining, I guess with they're neither sport is very big in America, though, so we don't get a lot of opportunities to watch them televised or, you know, in person. But don't you call football what we call soccer? Yep, yeah, that's where I'm talking. We at. We have soccer leagues here in America, but they're not quite world class. It's American class and some of the the best players kind of get paid highly to come play for American teams and kind of seed new leagues, that type of thing. So the action on our soccer fields, or football fields if you will, is much slower. Right. They're not rock stars, just wow, because when you watch the performers in the UK leagues is amazing. It's such a difference. Or South America Leagues to we're nothing like that. So yeah, we're limited to and they don't. We never see I'm can't recall the last time I saw rugby on TV. I think I might have had cable channel. I flicked it to some New Zealand, some cable channel in New Zealand, and that's all they played. But it's hard to see those two sports. So yeah, that's all much to the couple years ago when they did a tour, it came to San Francisco Nice. I played rugby in Berkeley was pretty fun. Yeah, they call it foot. Yeah, they were. They were playing at the at the baseball park. What do you call it? The San Francisco Baseball Park, whatever that is. Now change his name so much. Love it. Love it. That's cool. Yeah, I'm not really a I love rugby, while Sharkby, obviously because of Whil. So sometimes I feel like I have to love it. But yeah, I'm not massive sports fun, are you us? Are you a sports? Do like our dod jog or sounds like. Probably ride a bicycle and that sort of thing. And hiken? Yeah, I run. Yeah, well, hike in is more like crawling up mountains for me now, but yeah, I run up fountains, I run down them. I Buy Canoe in, kayaking. Yeah, things like some staying fit. Good for you. It sounds like you live in a just the perfect place to enjoy the outdoors. So the weather, I'm like, is the cliche English weather. I'm sorry, you' Not English, obviously, but the UK weather we always assume is gloomy. Is that traditional? Is...

...that kind of common where you are? I know it's a joke that everybody says this like that. Okay, but it does rain a hell of a lot. Sure you know, but it's not always gloomy, of course, if that makes sense, because it's not always dark. But it does rain a lot. But when we get sun and we get hot, whether we get hot, really hot weather, yeah, I'm human, Huh. Yeah. Yeah, and then when it gets cold, it's horrible cold. It's like damp cold. When I went to Finland it was mine forty and it wasn't as cold as it feels like it was here, but it's very damp here. Yeah, like through your bone soon's cold. So with all that rain, everything looks green, right. Yes, yeah, but the only thing is when it stopped training and it goes sunny and hot for about three or four days, everything sucks, dying quickly. Some people panic. Yeah, quite ext you don't have fire weather warning these days like I do. This is crazy. Yeah. Yeah, we're Gary and I grew up is a place called the Diablo valley and every I don't know, every spring, I guess you would say exactly what you talked about. All the hills were covered in beautiful green grass and then one day you could tell it starting to turn, two days, three days later, pure yellow. Yeah, yeah, and we're getting such bad winds now that the fire weather warnings are coming earlier and earlier each year. Oh Wow, we're in it today. Oh Wow, I think. I think the worst weather warning we had, obviously was like rather alert, but we had a lot of flooding, and I mean like the whole village where I usual it was flooded, shop sets close and everything. But even I sank myself nearly every day. That we don't gas by just like you guys do. Oh, you know, New Zealand. Oh, on, Australia, and yeah, it's a people complain about the Wather in North Wales and am light. Will sorry, but this is nothing compared to some people. Yeah, and if yeah, it seems similar to the American States. SEATTLE, Washington and Portland, Oregon are states that have similarly gloomy kind of stereotypical weather. But obviously just it just overcast most of the time and that also keeps it from being too freezing. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that sounds lovely. Do you guys have a sounds like you have a canoe. Do you have you go out on the sea in a boat? Boat, a full size boat? Oh God, no, that's scary. Okay, I don't know. Is it chopping like is that is that? See? Not Men for recreation? Or How's that seat? And I know so many people, my daughter included, and she's only eight, and she loves going on boats. And we have different kind of boats. We have baked two of boats, and then we have the sea rescue boats that you can have a ride on, like obviously not an emergency, but you can have a ride on. And then we have the little paddle boats with one of them things called alls. But me myself, I am terrified, and I say I go kayaking and canoeing. I mean there's about two foot of water. That's it. It's just if yeah, there enough. Yeah, I don't own a canoe. Just enough's but just enough that I'm not going to die if I fall out. I'm terrified of going on boats and stuff. I'll go swimming, but I go swimming in lakes, you know, like trees and lakes, and in the sea to a point, but I'm just boat scare me. I'm very weird like that. That's a fascinating thing because a lot most people are just afraid of the water themselves and they like the boats a little bit more. But you kind of the opposite yeah, yeah, I I don't even know why. I generally did not know where it's come from. I've grown up me a boat, a water. I still won't go in it. That's great. So tell me now, as things are kind of progressing and you have a young child your partner, living in a small town, what do you see for your future? Is this the kind of place that you you're going to stay and raise your kid until she's out of college? Yes, absolutely, I feel yeah, I always have done, even before I had her, even before I thought of kids. I thought, if I'm going to have kids, this is where I want to bring her up. I'm very passionate about that. I grew up her here. You know, might be in a different kind of town or village, but locally, as aid in north Wales, it's good, educationable. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I'm not stupid. You know. Obviously you're with us. We've got one of the well, exactly, you know, we've got one of the highest performing university's Natis as...

...well, and as much as a like shettle, the town is or the city is. This crosses the city. The universities and the colleges are just incredible. To schools are incredible. I mean they learned my daughter had speech problems when she was younger. They taught my child to to talk, you know, and as much as other places do that they might do, but to me that that just means the world, you know. So are your schools public schools? Are they paid for and also, do you have a similar medicine system, like Healthcare System in Wales that we hear about? Yeah, well, we have a mixed of public and paid for schools. However, I went to a public school and I can't where I went to school is nothing compared to a public school in the US. I understand there's a lot of things going on there. Now we're very lucky because our public school is quite how can I say? Is that quiet? It's maybe that's the right ways with quiet and yeah, very much that. You know. Yes, that is some bullying going on, but nothing compared to a lot of what other countries go through. So we're very lucky to have really good public schools. You know, we do have some private schools as well, which amazing, and I know people who have been to them as well, of course. Yeah, and but yeah, in particular the public schools and we're very, very lucky here and that they are the way they are with NHS. Yeah, we don't pay for medical bills. We don't have medical bills, we don't pay for medication, which is incredible. It's yeah, and that's commercial a personal thing as well. Yeah, that would be a big relief, I think, in any country if you could just relieve the burden of having to pay every time you got sick. Yeah, it's it's something I'm genuinely thankful for every day, every day. Like I said, I have friends from the US I have to pay for the medication and they have to because they have long life illnesses. Yeah, you know, and then I find myself that the medication I'm going to be on for life, that I don't have to pay for, you know, and that is that's a privilege. That is huge, you know. Yeah, yeah, very, very thankful. I think we play for the dentist if we're working. I mean that's like thirty pounds. It's now that it's nothing. You know, that's great. I love hearing stories like that because there is hope and I think in a way it's a privilege, but it's also by design. Like you, you guys and your ancestors you designed the society that you live in. That's true, you know. So you collectively thought that that was a valuable thing, that taking care of each other, it's health, was important enough to collectively pay for it, and I think that's that's Geez, that's huge and I just don't understand why Americans can't get that together or wrap their head around that idea. Yeah, yeah, you also probably take care of your not having a lot of homeless correct. Yes, that's very true, very very true, especially from, say, Liverpool, which is a couple of hours away from us. The difference between Earth here. I I think I've seen a homeless person once. I'm not kidding. I'm six years old and I've seen a homeless person around my area once and he wasn't from Wales. It walked from England and that was that was insane to see because there's so many people around and try to help and that was like wow. But then I go to Liverpool, then there's a little bit more people, and then I go to London, then as a hell of a lot more people, for example, all the rest. Yeah, yeah, you know. So, yeah, we don't. You know, when we say we have homeless people here, we have people who have split up from the partner, for example, and have nowhere to go, but there's always so either someone personally that will help them or our government will say, right, let's find you somewhere to sleep, and it's quick. It's very, very quick, because I know because I've been there. It's it's incredible. Yeah, that's great. I think there's a couple of twofold problem with homelessness. The homeless issue is that they are drawn to big cities. So therefore big cities develop better homeless programs or more resourced, more funded homeless programs, which then causes more people to go there. Then a lot of times the smaller city say we don't really have much, you have to go to the big city if you need help. Becomes a magnet. That's the way it isn't work anyway. So, yeah, the big cities become a magnet because they have all the services. And then normally the smaller towns in the outskirts in the country...

...don't have many homeless because they're just they look weird standing alone on an intersection in the middle of nowhere with no cars driving by, whereas, yeah, if they just took the bus to the big city. Now they're with a whole bunch of other homeless people standing in line to get stuff. There, with their tribe. Yeah, in a sense they are with their tribe. Yeah, unfortunately, rubs off, because you kind of do become like the equivalent of the five people you're around the most. I kind of believe in that and if you start hanging around with with homeless people, you're just going to entrench yourself into that mindset. No stigma the homeless people. I know everyone gets there, not didn't. Nobody intends to become homeless, but by embracing that. I'm new in town. Where are you from? Oh, I was homeless up in Sacramento. I jumped on this bus and now I'm in San Francisco. Okay, I'm going to call you sacky. What's up, sacky? We notice the homeless guys and in California tend to take their home cities name. So we've met people like named Detroit, Chicago. Just it's funny. Wow, yeah, that's interesting. So now I think interesting is all right. Way. Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, with my with my language, I like whatever I'm saying to you. Now I have to translate in my hut to make sure it sounds okay. So that can get a bit if the show and sometimes I like does that makes sense? That is so wild. Yeah, I noticed you said that a couple times and you're speaking right on point. So I can't tell that I'm talking to a Welsh person as opposed to an English person. I just hear the accent, but the words coming out or spot on. Yeah, the English sounds fine. I think you're translating fine on the fly. That's quit. Yeah, I try. So, okay, just just to maybe wrap it up without being too negative. But so say I was coming to town. Would you warn me about anything? Is there anything shifty going on any part of the town? This sounds like a very peaceful little hamlet that you probably if anything was amiss it would be dealt with really quickly. But are there any like cranky old ladies that I should not go by their house because this right, right, what's going on? Without naming names, is there anything we should be okay, listen to this facade. Okay, probably the most saying I would warn you about is, especially if you can bound on the train right, if you're coming to my village on my talent. Sorry, on a train. It will not stop here and unless it's requested. Okay, okay, so got to pull the ring. Yeah, so that's really important to know. Also, like I said before, it is the longest time name in the okay, so if you're planning on sending lefters, I'd learn to shorten that or something. They'll planning to register your house here the end without so people. I genuinely think that everybody I've met so far I've been incredible and you know, maybe they've ad enough stable and day or whatever, but I don't think I'm not any horrible evil people. People will look weird that you if you kind of I don't know. If you, how can I? How should we dress? Yeah, that's that's going to say. If you kind of dress, I can't say normal. I'm probably the most normal person. So say if we just roll into town wearing, you know, kind of newish denim jeans, you know, not not holy, you know, kind of fashionable, some sneakers and a Tshirt, we have fie. We don't tattoos. Oh, tattoos like, I mean I've got a lot of that's it. Kay. So I think tee is fine. I think it's a case of different people's round here seem to know if you're not from around here and they don't judge you what anything like that, but they will say without thinking about it, and that is because they genuinely like, is that person from here? But the clothes and stuff is very like genie. But they will probably look weirdbout you if you were short when it's a little bit warm, because they know it's not going to last. I feel like, yeah, that persons not from here called out by the shorts, inappropriate wearing of shorts. That's the the card right there. Yeah, we're short, you're not from around here. Where are you from boys, and then you open up your mouth telling you yeah, did they're literally help this knock off say that someone's not from here. But the not justimental not from round here anyway. And I, like I said, I can't sweek for like the South and because I don't know. But the only people are so nice. They don't always smile, but they do always say high or have a quick kind of acknowledgement, like yeah, quickly and not a little hand raised or something. I will popular. Oh yeah, that's the one. That's a very popular thing. And now is which is yawn you know,...

I've said before die. Yeah, yeah, well, this is yaw, so it's like half of great. Yeah, it's like you're right me. Yeah, but then when you see an all the person you be like that's you o care out and doll. That's a little more respectful. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, have like little more formal words for the old. Yeah, basic, it's a less what's up, dude and more how are you doing, sir? Yeah, yes, basically, yes, it's exactly that. Is that part of whales predominant? Not Predominantly, but is that part of whales? Mixed races or predominantly Caucasian? We are many Caucasian around here. However, there is more difficultured people to make because we up the university as well, and it's mainly because of the university. So, like I mean, I said, these do that. Yeah, yeah, which is which is brilliant, you know, while I think so, because I mean, like most of my friends are Chinese now or like Spanish as well, which is pretty incredible. Yeah, it's great to get to know other like minded educated folk that are non Caucasian. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, and I am. It's in my daughter school as well. Were getting more families I mean my little girls best friend is he's think. Is He from Pakistan? I think, I mean I he's like a little Pakistani friend when I was a kid to his name was Ushuo and it was the I learned the strangest stuff over his house. Every time I go there it smelled so interesting. Their customs were so interesting, like wow, this is really cool. I feel like it went to another country every time I went to US shoes house. Yeah, I really like he owns the shop and where I used to live the moment. Sorry, his mom and they just some. They're just incredible, Jeremy. But yeah, we are getting more mobile. Like I said, it's manic because of the university. Yeah, yeah, something has to draw them the otherwise it sounds like you're so far out in the in the way backs nobody would ever find you on this they pulled the train stop. It's really interesting. You have a town that you have so few people you could literally fit them all into the gymnasium of the college and see everybody in town at once. Yeah, yeah, I was always thought that that was amazing. That's why I lived in a small town like that in a state called Louisiana down on the south part of America or United States, and the problem with that I had was that the cops knew that. The police knew that too. They knew it. Yeah, town, and they kind of knew where you were all the time, even if you didn't want them to. And I'm like this is too small for me, because I'm I'm no criminal, but I also just have a thing about authority just always poking around, and in the south part of America there, I mean south part of the United States, they're just looking for people to get into trouble. You know, have you come across any movies or movie sets or movies being shot and your part of Wales? Yeah, Merlin, Merlin, it's cold. Oh Gosh, what this name? Now? Wait a minute, was that the one with Sam Neil? Oh Gosh, I'm gonna it sounds true. No, I don't watch much. Yeah, I don't watch much, Sally. I'm quite sad about that. Now you're doing right. Yeah, but I think it was Merlin they were most of that was filmed near where I live, like round the corner where I live. That sounds amazing. Then you must live in really pretty place. Yeah, I'm sure that's I look like this is as well. I can't, I just can't think on the top of my head. And what are the films that was? You still have that feel of old that that old feet. What do you call it? God, I'm trying. Medieval Times, and not in particularly where I am now, but the other the other county where I used to live, in the other place, and still have some of the houses that was standing from like one thousand nine hundred and sixty something like that, which they've made into a two this subtraction, which is pretty your sort on. We still have the quarries as well, because we did. We have a lot of working quarries, Rad the like pretty yeah, they're pretty awesome to climb. Little shouldn't way. What are they mining for out there in the quarries? And slates for building houses, building roofs. But yeah, it's all cutting slates and stuffin you can literally go into a place in chamber as to cut the slates and look at the old what they used to go through and yeah, it's amazing as I highly recommend that you go there, and it's free as well. So that's awesome. WHO's famous over there? Who Do you? You said you don't watch much to tell you,...

...but do you like our American people that are famous, still famous over there? Like who's a famous actor to you? I Love Jim Carrey. Oh yeah, he's one of her favorites, the American. He's Canadian but he's I think he got famous for most people think he's American at this point, but he's Canadian. He is great, he's do this is how useless I am with Philms. Have you seen Andy and me? I think that's what it's called. No, it's a Jim Carrey made a movie about an actor called Andy Kaufman after Andy Kaufman passed away. Oh, man on the moon. Yeah, so in Jim made a documentary of himself while he made the movie man in the Moon, and he stayed in that character and he stayed in the character and he carried around this little camera and you see the like the movie company call it's like yeah, you got to stop filming your documentary and he's all, fuck these guys, I'm going to keep filming. So, yeah, Andy and me is Jim Carrey's super met, a documentary of him filming a movie about Andy Kaufman. It's called so if you're not, if you're not watching much telly? Are you reading more, Kim? Yeah, I read a lot. I do watch telly. I just I quite like my son big phones. So like Nice, I tends. Yeah, I send so much like walking that the Foto Loki. That thinks AL and. But I used to be a big film watch, a movie watcher. But I do read a law and yeah, yeah, I mean particular, particular what do you call it? I'm the last four words here. Author, not author. Subject. Yeah, I'm very much into selfdevelopments, where I say if that's on a business level or personal level. So I do read a lot of like Brennie Brown was, the friends and that kind of thing. I'm not really into my was it that word friction? Yeah, I'm the same way. Yeah, yeah, I cannot. I'm not big on fiction either. I have a hard time reading fiction myself. Yeah, but then saying that as well, with the books and one of the films that was film near me was King Arthur. Sorry, not my lane. I think merling was as well, but King Arthur. So I instantly wanted to read a book up up King Arthur. It was a bit weird Iddula in the end. But so, yeah, I do try. Yeah, but I love reading. Reading is huge for me. So, I mean you've heard the hipop the right is huge. Yeah, well, some of yeah, some of that one was filmed the a's as well. I can't remember exactly what part. I'm pretty sure some of it was from Pembrokeshire, which is the south, I think. Okay, I mean, yeah, I'm so. As I found out about that, I was like, okay, yeah, I need to read a little bit, but that's like huge lot of hyposters in that, like a lot of long Oh yeah, they sucking you into there. Once you get stuck on that, they'll keep you reading forever. Like Star Wars, you just may keep making books after books, hiring new authors to write new storylines. It's crazy. That's anohing about star wars as well. As the guy who played and Das Raider was actually from. I think it was press Staton, which is about half an hour away from me. Okay, that's pretty awesome. Yeah, that was pretty awesome. I don't know if it was. It's definitely not James Earl Jones. Yeah, it's. If it was, the old original actor was a guy named David Prouss who I think just passed away like last year. Yeah, we have school. Yeah, it's Tall Dude, you know. Like I said, I don't know exactly who it was. Yeah, sorry, I'll us. got a boot me now because I can't remember what something like a long hey, I stumbled over all my words too, and I'm still here. Yeah, well, yeah, doing will I do? I do it every show, John can attest. Yeah, this is one of our more smooth, smoothly flowing shows, because normally what we do gary and I get together and we just talked about stuff generally. We have ideas of things we want to talk about. We also have catching up to do from the last week because we're friends and we haven't seen each other for a week. So we start talking, we record and then somewhere in there there's maybe ten minutes of a cool conversation that I'll just cut out, like yeah, that's fine, that's a podcast. So we just tried to keep it very casual. Well, I do other podcasts that are way more formatted and, you know, kind of traditional, but this one we just have fun with. But you know, part of the format of this one is like well,...

...let's just connect people from around the world. So we've got folks in Brazil, New Zealand, yourself and there's one other country. I think it was another English person, like England proper, but so far that's for I'm like, I should be a good start. We'll see if this idea works and by all means, you're totally welcome to come back if you ever want to promote anything that you're working on or just check in and let if something changes in your town and you got some big local news you want to share, like tell us. That would be awesome. That'd be a blast. Thank you. Yes, that'd be an almo. Thank you. I think is amazing what you guys did. Actually, it's like this has been. It's been amazing what we I was inspired. Honestly, this is a very new idea. I've just about two weeks ago I was looking through Hbo Max, You Know Home box office HBO, and they had a document docu series called our town, and it's just slow, kind of methodical, beautifully photography documentary that just goes through the random little American towns and ask people about stuff and I'm like, Oh yeah, this is kind of fascinating to watch. So I'm like, let's expand this in audio format and this talk to people from around the world and get their input it without getting to yeah, without like and I think we did a good job of avoiding politics. So that's nice, because politics doesn't translate well to other countries necessarily, and they definitely are dated. So a year from now no one's going to want to hear about the last year's exactly. Tis. That's so, and it's ready unlikely, though, beach is going to disappear. Jo, I mean right, right, exactly. Oh, spender wilding, Spencer wilding, is that Darth Vader? That was I'm pretty shows out with somebody to play staff vader. Okay, cool, look for you figured it out, because I was like, yeah, I'm curious. Now that's a new name I haven't heard before. That's why I'm glad she came up with that. I'm going to have to Google that see what's up. What's Spencer wilding character? Yeah, not better mind. I might be completely wrong. Okay, but you need to let me know. Spencer wilding is definitely probably a person and he did something. So we'll see what's up with this character. Yeah, he's too shady. Don't tell you one. Yeah, all right, can well, it's been a pleasure. Thanks for your time and you have my email information. You're always welcome to email me for any reason if there's anything I could help you with in audio format or on Linkedin or facebook. I'm not really on facebook much, but if you need my help on Linkedin and want to meet people connected with me over there, for sure that'd be amazing. I'll thank you so much. It's my pleasure. You good to go get yeah, it's been great. I love it. This is awesome, cool being. I remembered to say, like coming for a coffee. If you have a down this way, just don't come on train. Well, I'd think. I want the right and I sit up by the conductor and make sure he stops where he needs to stop's a good point, and go puy. I love the train and that sounds like a fun way to visit that part of the countryside as well. Oh all right, Johnny, let's have to train and visit her place and have coffee. There we go. It's a plan. So it's great. All right, thank care, Kim Gary. I will check you with you in a few minutes. That was pretty fun. Right. So our next trip we're going to go around to the southwest coast, the Jurassic coast of England, and we're going to talk with D Laura. So when we get talking with her we kind of digress way off from what her town is about to what she does. I think you'll find her work fascinating. So a big shout out to Kim Kim, thanks so much for describing North Wales to us and how life is like in your little town. And, as always, thanks to clean feed at clean feed dotnet for hooking up Gary and myself with such fantastic audio nationwide and now around the world. I look forward to talking to you guys soon, and that's coming right up. So chicken and now back to the wall.

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