Live from Emo Dojo
Live from Emo Dojo

Episode · 3 years ago

Stigma in the workplace; Bipolar disorder

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John and Becky (from That B Word Podcast) talk about the stigma against Bipolar Disorder in the workplace and share their personal experiences about whether or not to "come out" as Bipolar at work.

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No, it's online stylecom style.That's it. That's me with Bi Polish styl again, as promised. Beckyfrom that B word is with me. What's up, Becky? Hey,good, good, so hopefully you were just listening to that nonsensical episode andare patiently waiting for us to talk about stigma in the workplace. You know, it's funny because both Becky and I work at jobs where they do notknow we have bipolar disorder. Do you do? You want to start?Do you want to tell us what your situation is and to the extent thatyou're able? Oh, sure. So my work for a lawyer and myjob is, well, I say so. My the Laura I work for,is actually bankruptcy trustee. So I have to present in a certain way. I guess everybody does. But not only do I have my boss thatI have to impress and appear normal to, I also have the United States trusteethat I have to make sure that they think I was saying so.So that can be a little bit differ all the Times. Yeah, butthat's a lot of pretending, you are saying. Well, yeah, there'sa lot of pretending in general. But yeah, so my current situation isthat I have lately, this past six months or so, had a lotmore appointments that I've had to get at, you you know, increased go totherapy and go on to my my men person. Yeah, and I'mrunning out of vacation days and in order to, you know, get someof this time allowed. Why? I don't know what to do. Oh, you have. So you haven't. The explanation has not had to comeup yet. No, no, I've just been able to say, Hey, I have an office appointment. I have the same thing. That's soweird and I okay. So back to your industry. Have you been inthe legal industry for long? You have worked this job for our fourteen years. So my God, right, right. But it's not just your firm thatstick has a I don't know, I get let's call her prejudice orsomething. And obviously it's not specific to your firm it but the whole legalindustry. I would imagine once any of your cohorts or your or the lawyersthemselves know somebody else has bipolar disorder,...

...that must be devastating in that industry. I'm just guessing. I don't know. Is it? I mean, II don't know if anybody else this hmm, well, I don't know, maybe nobody is out. That was out to me anyway that got introuble or got fired for that, although I do know. Well, therewas one person who I knew had bipolar disorder. I don't think anybody elseyou knew, but she did end up getting fired because of the bipolaris order, because of, you know, her resulting bears. Yeah, yeah,but that's that's an interesting if you don't, because if she did thought something,maybe she didn't gotten some sort of incommendation, because I was fact whenthat was possible for me. But she didn't because you know, yeah,that that's a hard choice a lot of us have to make. It's likea do I go all in and just say I got bipolar disorder, ordo I say I've got fucking Lupus or something? I've got lupus, Ican't come in today. Well, I mean not to joke about people withLupus, obviously, but I mean there are plenty of accepted ailments that willkeep you at home, like food poisoning. People fear at my work think Ifucking eat at the craziest restaurants because I'm always getting food poisoning to theloss of bad sishy. I totally bad Sushi. I recently I just atea bunch of iceberg lettuce, whatever that kind of let us Romaine, letus yeah, fucking I was like depressed for two days. I couldn't getout of bed, I could barely even like take a shower, and Iwork and live in the building I work in. Right. So they missedme, but fortunately I got them all hooked up on slack. So theyneed be on my hay. I'm just be upstairs typing. You know,let me know what you need. But I'm mass so fucking hard to getand functions sometimes, so I just like, oh, yeah, it's migrains food, but just some bullshit, right, because people will not accept I've gotbipolar disorder. They'll look at you crazy and yeah, I'll often comparedto other invisible conditions, let's call them, because that's that's my siren, bythe way. So the new rule is we don't worry about sirens thatgo by, okay, we just worry about the ones that stop. Yeah, that's going back, he's still moving. Keep going, buddy. Every timethey stop I end up like got to go downstairs and find a deadbody or something Shit Fu on the regular. Three, three months, so monthly, I guess. Nikes indeed. So so, for example, goodpeople I get on because I make ridiculous comparison sometimes, like the one I'mabout to make. But like, are there any homosexuals that are out atyour law firm? Wow, HMM, interesting. Do you think that's it'sthe similar stigma. Like, do you...

...think it'd be easier to be outas a gay person or out as a bipolar person at a law firm?Oh, I think gay for certain. Definitely. Yes, absolutely, butwe've got the past. We do have to acknowledge our privilege as white people, because I always like to tell others, no matter how bad you think youhave it, you could be gay and have bipolar disorder, but youcould also be black on top of that. So always consider that white people,if you're out there complained about your lot in life, you could alwaysthrow black on top of that and then see how it would feel. Anyway. Sorry to digress, but I always think of that because I've lived aroundso many black folks and that was remote of that. I'm like, Oh, yeah, that's true. I could be black and it would be worse. Yeah, well, yeah, so, but also being you can't you can'thide being black. You can hide your bipolar, you can hide yourgay, you can hide a lot of things, but you can't hide yourskin tone obviously your ethnicity. So that's why it's a ridiculous comparison there.But now my comparison was bipolar to gay. anyways. So where we are onCalifornia and California here I live in the heart of Super Liberal town,I guess. HMM, and every lay, everybody's good. I think. Ithink I'm the only not gay person. Maybe if I moved to your state, I'm Super Democrat here. If I moved to your stay, theyprobably call me a Republican. Fuck Yeah, they call this one guy, GavinNewsom, who's running for something here, and maybe the governor. I thinkin California he was the mayor of San Francisco and he fought, hewas the first guy that legalized gay marriage in the city, that he saidFuck State Law, it's legal here, it's going to be legal, andthat guys considered far right in San Francisco. Yeah, just because, just becausehe's white. He's white and it looks like you know a model actorkind of guy. It's just to two pretty boy to upscale. He's gotfancy guys money from some you know. I'm not sure where he gets hismoney, from the getty family or something, but anyway, they always follow themoney. No matter how liberal your policies or your attitude or your intent, if you're attached to money somehow the super duper liberals will say, Nope, you're not one of us after all. Yeah, had we get off onthat? Know, the stigma thing. So yeah, let's get back tostigma, back to that was my bed. So anyway, my pointbeing here in San Francisco, being gay isn't a thing and be you canaffect. Mental illness isn't really a stigma downtown. It's just something that's sopervasive Mo this we don't know how to deal with it. So right,the idea of stigmas different here, because if you are able to put onthe act and not fall apart, like I have bipolar disorder, I've gotmyself together over the years and I've stepped up through jobs and experience, andnow I have a job. So people know me as that guy with thejob. Right, but in my head...

I don't think I'm that much differencedifferent than the dude sleeping right there on the sidewalk outside my window right now. There's not that much of a difference. It's just that they missed their opportunity. They did a did the wrong drug at the wrong point or something. But I'm like, we're just two steps away from each other, Bro. So the stigma is different. So if I even if I told peopleat work I had a mental disorder, to them, they see mental disorderas sleeping in the gutter. They don't see that in me. So thereforethey think, oh, no, big deal, you're probably you're fine,and I'm like, okay, so if I feel sort of dismissed, maybeslightly gas lighted a little bit, but at least in my perspective, it'son the good side. At least they're airing on the good side, butat least they're like yeah, people you work with. No, no,no, not this time before. Let's see, I worked in this industrybefore, many years ago, and everything was cool until one of my supervisorsI told her I had bipolar disorder because it got to that point where howoften can you be food poisoned? Right? So I finally told her and withina week she was slamming me with all kinds of micromanagement bullshit, allkinds of extra paperwork, extra supervision. I mean, exactly the opposite ofthe way you would treat somebody in this situation. Really just made matters worse. So I voluntarily, you know, gave my two weeks notice and founda different job and just left. I took another job in a different industry, and part of that process was all like hey, let's share about yourstories and let's be a community at this place. And first thing I thoughtwas, excuse me. I'm like, well, sure, I just movedto a new town and I'll share everything. I'm like, Hey, I havebipolar disorder and you guys hired me because we're diverse and love and allthis bullshit. Well, that's great when you're mannic and you're able to feedthe machine right. Oh Yeah, they love that, they love that.Credit, creditivity. Fuck yeah, creativity, Manic Energy, works all hours,upbeat, attitude, friendly, all the whole shit, and then youstart swinging into that depressive mode, no matter how hard you try. Imight be mother's Day or Christmas or some bullshit. I'll just set you offand usually take something pretty big, but eventually it happens. And then Igot depressed, not not even little depressed, hard depress, you know, likein bed for a couple weeks. Didn't didn't fucking do my laundry formonths. was buying my shit off of Amazon. Instead of washing the underwear, I buy more underwear from Amazon. I'm like, fuck it, whatever, very liberal paid time off policy. I used it all up eventually,of course, and there's things spun out of Control. I just lost thejob because of that. There's no two ways about it. And what doyou expect, even with the friendliest of...

...organizations, let's say? How Imean, what do you expect? I can't expect them to keep that sickof a person around on the books forever. But then again, what do youdo with us? Right? Yeah, that's a problem. You can't seecompanies points of view. As far as instruments, costs or whatever itwas it anyway, because even though, how do I polity disorder makes anybody'sinstruments go way up, the company still don't cover it right anyway, becausethey don't tell them, don't hath stuff right. It's bullshit. I HateInsurance Anyway. Yeah, no, it's extra layer that we don't really need. I mean single pair government provided insurance would be the best. But youknow, this ain't the politics show, not yet. Will Get to definitelyan episode. There's definitely a place for mentally ill people, let's say,to get involved with politics to help make themselves better. Well, the stigma'sdefinitely strong. Yeah, so ever since I've lost two jobs, I'm notquite in a row. There's a couple sprinkled in in the middle of salesjobs and things like that. Sales is cool because if you sell Shit andyou perform, you could not sell stuff for a couple weeks or months,as long as you sold some other shit and your yearly quota is keeping up. That's a flexible job. So I always encourage people with bipolar disorder tofind some kind of flexible job like that. But anyway. So after that,being stung and let go from two different jobs, I vowed not tosay anything about my bipolar disorder at the next job, and so far sogood. So I've now made it through two jobs and actually have three jobs. So work my way through one without ever saying it, and I currentlywork two jobs and neither of them know anything about it, which is fine, because I also well, that's also what makes it weird about starting apodcast under my own name. Invariably somebody's going to find that. Yeah,but here's here's my here's my cool thing. Unless they're super into podcasts and knowhow podcast work, which I've found are very few people where I live, like most of them, especially my age or older, they don't.They don't know Dick About podcast. They know the Internet and phones and smartAPPs everything, but they haven't taken that leap into podcast yet. Most ofthem, the old people at the hotel I work, I didn't even knowwhat a fucking podcast is. I'm at it's like public radio. Yeah,I'm going to interview you like public radio. They understand that, but too,sorry, lost my place over there. Well, seriously, we're so wherewas? I'm sorry, I'm not totally did lost my path anyway.So always getting back to the stigma and...

...why I hide it. So thepaywall thing, yeah, the patreon thing. This so like it. Well,we've talked before, but I really have just I talked to this mic, because otherwise I would be talking to myself. I don't have a pet. There's no cats around or dogs for me to talk to. Oh,I'll tell you about the cat and just second. So, anyway, sinceI'm going to keep talking on a mic. Anyway, I don't really care ifpeople hear it. I'm putting all this shit behind a patreon paywall,like everything except twitter. I'm going to start posting my photos like instead ofInstagram, it's going on Patreon. If I ever want to blog something,it's going on Patreon and I'm just going to lock all that shit behind apaywall and if any prospective employer wants to peek on me that it's gonna havethe gonna have to pay, which serves my purpose in many ways. Ikeep it private. I'll definitely know who paid three bucks or a buck orwhatever to see it, because I'm like, Oh, my perspective, employers checkingup on me, yeah, whatever. So I'll be able to do that. And if they do happen to though the technology of PODCAST, thenthey're probably pretty fucking cool people and they probably would not hold the mental illnessagainst me if I was already doing my job and they never knew right,and they have to be looking for mentalness podcast anyway to find you. Imean, yeah, exactly. So they just they would have to be kindof Stalkerish, and to which I would say, well, dude, you'rethe Weirdo looking up on me. So you know who's more weird? Youstalking me or me just having a voice in a sea of hundreds of thousandsof other people doing podcasts anyway. Yeah, so it should be fun, buthopefully I can get it serialized so where I could get up in themorning to just talk for five minutes about the thing that happened yesterday and regularlisteners would be like, oh, yeah, I remember that thing that happened yesterday. Cool. What's the resolution to that situation? Yeah, talk aboutthings that happen in the building. Talk about the other podcast. I'm goingto start about the stories of the people that live in the building. Thatshould be fun. But is your job? Is like super interesting from right?Yeah, to me it is, and other people just don't believe it. So I think by telling it in a day by day they'll start toactually believe it, because otherwise you just sounds like a bunch of made upstories and I'm like no, dude, that shit actually really happened. Likethat's impossible. That stuff does not happen that frequently to anybody. I'm like, guess it does. It happens to everybody in this neighborhood. So nuts. Was I telling you earlier? Like I was paid a today, soI went and cash to check. There's a bank in America called Wells Fargo, big old bank, like a banking from company whatever. Their main branchesover there by the twitter office and right by twitter's headquarters. So I thinkall the new people from twitter or something that don't have yet direct deposit haveto go cast checks at this wells Fargo Bank. And Man it is thedirtiest, most fucked up bank I've ever seen. And you've got these uptighttech guys weren't a little bit too tired...

...of Khaki dockers and they get superuptight in line and they put on the Super White Guy Impression, like who'smanaging this place? This is a fiasco. Somebody should do something fucking great.There's almost a brawl between some other guys, you know, the guyswith the tattoos on their face and start and shit with the they got threesecurity guards and they're all in there like getting ready to brawl. They havetheir jackets off shoot and then they called the cops, but of course thisis the part of town where cops don't really come. So the I stilllines. What's that? Even to a bank. I was telling the ladyin line, I'm like watch, the COPS will come here fast because thisis where the money is, and she agreed and we sat in line anotherfifteen minutes. No cops. Fortunately, no brawl either, but it's justan interesting like weird shit like that happens every day. That was just twohours ago. Yeah, it's fascinating, man. I dig it and Ithink other people might find interesting stories there and I won't have to fucking focuson being bipolar all the time or having by olar disorder or having fucking toconcentrate on how to say which, how it is do it, you knowwhat I mean, like, Oh my God, just let me be me. I just I just want to talk and it doesn't have to be aboutbipolar disorder. Let's do other great shit because man, there's so many greatcreative people out there that do stuff that and they only happen be bipolar orthey only happen to have by borderline or whatnot. Man, that borderline isme kicking my ass lately to hmm, it's the worst. Who else hasthis besides like? I mean a lot of people would bipolar. I'm notsure they're so close to each other. Some of those are really, reallysimilar. Yeah, it's like a joystick on arcade game, and bipolar isup and down and borderlines left and right. I mean it's all the same fuckingjoystick and sometimes it's the worst thing about it to me is, andit kind of goes with the stigma that experience and the trying to hide mytrue self in the workplace, is I really have a hard time accepting anykind of compliments and then I complain because I don't feel I'm supported. Butyet when people but compliment me, I reject the compliment and I like well, that's fucking stupid. How's that going to work? But just this it'slike a perpetual downward cycle. Yeah, it's not. Nah. That's alsokind of what keeps me from, like getting on the microphone. I'm likeyeah, well, I might even talking, nobody wants to hear, and thenthe other like the devil on this shoulders, like you're not talking becausepeople want to hear. You're talking because you need to talk. That's right, you. Yeah, yeah, a good blue and or red, Idon't know. Once before the Obama election, I got two of those Chinese fightingfish, a blue one and a red one, and I put himin a tank together to see who would win. It's one of those thingsI wanted to test. Like people are saying, no, you can't feedchocolate the dogs, they'll die. And...

...one time we had like this fuckinggigantic Massif and he got into the Easter basket, ate the whole fucking thing, including the basket, like, Oh my God, the fake grass,the straw basket, all the candied eggs, the tinfoil. I have fucker didn'tdie at all. He's shit out, shit out at all. Easter basket. Nope, not a bit, not even a little. Yeah,a little. People will freaking out crazy because I have a dog and hegot into some girls stop cookies and like almost die and I take no,no, I shouldn't. I should take that back. I'm not belittling theeffective chocolate on dogs at all, because it is dangerous to dogs. Iwas just and I did obviously give my Easter basket to the mastiff, butI was I was shocked when nothing happened to him. Like we took himto the vantage deck. Well, seems okay. Well, here's a bill, Oh, I got things, God help and no, he was sure. It's fine, like that fucking dog and then he ate the deck,but next week the deck like fucking wooden day. And if you guys wanta mastiff, there you go and love that dog also. That's why Ilike him, just gigantic head. Hey, so, I'm sorry. Back tothe cat thing. There's a weird phenomena on Craig's list. I'm notsure if you were aware of this, but if you go to Craig's listunder community and the upper left quadrant, there's a pets column in San Francisco. If you go under pets, you could find hold on one second,some stuck in my throat. Get A MS are I'm drinking. I'm drinkingmy soda. I'm seriously thinking about starting on this podcast. So she yeah, no, you shit. You got the kind of voice that people tunedinto just get really up to the MIC. Funny. Anyway. They craigslist catsbizarro world. So you'll reply to these people and they'll like send you. They'll lead you on. They won't tell you what the rehoming fee isand then they'll send you like. But first let I'm I'm happy you inquiredabout my precious Kitten, but first let me ask you some questions. Thatand I'll ask you a bunch of random questions, none of from a likegive me your bank account or so security, nothing like that. But clearly theyhave one of your email addresses. Likely Right, not a big deal. They have so little information about you. Is What trips me out about thisfiasco, because then email or two later, when they think they've gotyou on the hook, they'll let on that they're actually not in San Francisco, they're not in the city that you're in, they're in a different city. But if you send them a check for two hundred dollars or whatever therehoming fee is, and it's usually like kind of exorbitant for a stray cat, then then they'll mail you. They'll ship you the fucking cat on theairplane. I'm like, that is the stupidest scam ever. Who would want? Who wants some mail order cat? For one you would never know whatyou're getting. It's I mean, even...

...if it was true, I yeah, it's one thing you should never ever, but if you did, that wouldmake sense. But right, right, yeah, and and people do shipanimals, don't get me wrong, but I'm in the area on thecraigslist looking for for lost and broken animals. I'm just looking to like straight upadopt. I don't want to. And that's the other thing. Allthe fucking people on craigslist you like Oh rehoming fee of five hundred dollars.I'm five hundred dollars could feed a fucking cat for two years. Are youkidding? If if you're doing that for the money, get out of thebusiness. I'm used to seeing a box full of kittens out in front ofthe Kmart with the side says pick one. That's that's the kind of kitties I'mlooking for. I'll take it to the vet, I'll get it fixed, I'll get it shots, but man, there's so many scammers on craigslist.However, I did find one. He had a local number and Icall them earlier this morning and he's real and the cat is real. Soin a week I might have a cat kitting. It's only like seven monthsold right now, but he's got it and he's moving, he can't keepit and he sounds real, so I'm so excited. It's like almost allwhite, but it's got huge symmetrical black patches over left and right eye andit's got a little black goatee under his chin. Burglar. Yeah, yeah, but what I did, because I'm like super anal about symmetry and design, his markings are like really rad they're like symmetrical and not out of whack, balanced and all that. Sorry, cats, I'm really anal about yourmarkings. Like coifish. It goes shop it for coyfish and I'm like,Nope, that one's fucked up. Nope, that's a little splotchy, that's noteven soft. Little left a bit much. So well, I likethe weird Fu up looking ones. I like all animl most better than none, let's put it that way. But if I'm taking the time to sortthrough all these craigslist cat scammera ads and making all the trips over to theSPCA every weekend to see if my cat is there, you know I'm not. I don't have it in mind. I just have what I I don'tknow, maybe I do. I don't have a specific thing in mind.I just know when I see it. Yeah, and this little guy lookspretty cute, so we'll see. I'm really excited about that, I thinkyou. Yeah, me too. So cool. Um. What people don'trealize, until we bring it up, is that while we're recording this andI'm in California, you're in Ohio, nobody actually knows what time it is. So it's actually getting pretty late for you, isn't it? It's likethirty. Can You? Can you do this once a month? Can welike get together and talk to shit about bipolar stuff? Roused Jim into theloop. Sometimes I like oneonone this way because there's no editing involved with thethree people. Was Awesome to it just required editing, which was one morething I procrastinated on. Yeah, and it turned out fine. Don't youhear it? The one you and you...

...and Jim, and I did.Yeah, as sometimes I don't listen to the ones with me on it.I don't hear my own voice. It's such a weird thing. Even likelistening to my voice in headphones right now, like, who is that creep?Get that weird out of my yeah, I don't mind my voice so muchas I just don't like the things that I say. I think Isaund like a stupid person. Mess of the Times. I think I soundlike a I don't know me, I know it all. I think that'snot the words I say, it's just the emphasis I place, because I'mreally in fat just okay, and I say things like Oh, here,okay, here's one thing. I'll just will leave kind of on maybe thisnote. So do you get really enthusiastic about others projects in your life,like when people come up and say, Hey, I'm going to school tolearn Spanish, or hey, what's up, I just got a new card.Do you are you like into it? You get excited for them? Well, yeah, I mean if there's a yeah, for sure. Andwell, I get excited for almost anything, like and it's genuine because I'm reallycurious. And if someone approaches me, I don't like to say I'm anempath because that sounds fucking hippieish, but when someone comes up and Icould tell they're really excited, I'll jump on that and I'll amplify their excitement. So my problem has been in the past and it's becoming again, iswhen I put out that excitement for their project, that person assumes I wantto help them with it, I want to give my time to it,or that I'm going to do it for them. Even yeah, and Idon't realize this because it's not stated in words or actions or writing, butyou know, a few days later we'll come back and I'll be like,hey, how's that project you're working on? Oh, yeah, yeah, Ithought you were going to X Y Z or say some shit, youknow, like hmm, no, no, I didn't actually say that at all. So I feel like I get roped into people's projects by being overlyenthusiastic about it and then, on the flip side, like with my ownkids, there's the issue of being too enthusiastic, where they're like mom,dad's wrecking it. That's okay. It's rubbed off on them now and Ithink they've got just enough. Oh, here's the latest thing. All right, one more thing. This is funny. I don't think we've talked about thison podcast yet. So I grew up long hair, rock and roll, tattoos, sex, drugs, rock and roll, right, and Ilook like a regular White Guy Cop. Look now, shaved head, Dude, whatever. So I was trying to trick my kids. You know,thinking I'm a square, keep my tattoos covered up. But because you possiblydo that? What happened was that reverse psychology shit. So we were sex, drugs and rock and roll. The parents, the mom and I,and the kids turned out now they're all square. My kids are all square. That's the weirst think, Yacht Rock,...

...right. So they work at thegym, they're straight edge with their diet, very healthful eaters, allthat good stuff. And you know, I'm like, oh, that's great, at least of not doing some weird shit. And then, sure enough, one day I thought one of my kids was fucking with me when hesent me a we like chat back and forth on Apple, like Apple Music, and we'll send each other songs. Well, he starts sending me thisweird ass shit like Asia, not the country, the band Peter Satara,Chicago, all the set and like he's kind of digging deep into the intothe deep cuts here. What's going on? And I thought he was fucking withme, being ironic. NOPE, if you didn't know, I'm notsure what age you are, not you becky, but the listener. Likethere's a small thin slice of American society right in that. Maybe one thousandnineteen to twenty one year old range that are into old, sappy songwriter rocksongs, bands like America Seals and cross billy, Joel maybe. And theycall it yacht rock, like yacht, like a boat. Go Google it, Yacht Rock. If you go to fucking itunes right now, there's ayacht rock playlist. They've already curated a yacht rock playlist and you can gojust drip sap all down you playlist all night long, liquid listening like mykid. Okay, here's the here's the apex of this issue. My kidemails me, text me, says, Dad, this is probably the greatestalbum of all time. I looked down at my phone. are supplies greatas hits are supplied, and like, I'm like slayer, Van Halen,Pantera, fuck it. All that right. And here's my kid and he's ajock. You know, you know, she just assist gendered Jockey Kid thatyou would think, I don't know what he's listening to, but nope, it's fucking being Peter Satara, being air supply. I'm like, Whoa, Whoa, whoa. So, if you've got got any good yacht rocksB sides that I can throw Adam, because we're to the point now.We're just trying to trick each other with even deeper cuts that we hadn't heardbefore, which did funny game to play with a twenty year old getting JimCroachy in there. Oh, he loves Jim Croachy. Yeah, you would. Yeah, operator, build the roller, roller, Derby Queen, all thatstuff, not just the the main hits like bad, bad Lou RoyBrown or anything he likes. He looks for the B sides. He's flippingme some mountain John I never heard in my whole life, like our.Okay, I'm like, well, Ellen John's got like eight million albums.So there's boundarby stuff we hadn't heard anyway. Yacht Rock, it's where it's at. People cool then. So see, we just had another bipolar style podcastwhere we weren't heavy into the therapy. We weren't into like medicine. Weshould. We should do one on...

...medicine next time, though, becausethere's some new meds coming out and I saw an awesome commercial for vrai lar, not for Ai Lar. Have you seen the commercial with the ladies goingmannic making sandwiches? It's funny. I think it was on the CBS newsAPP that I watched through the Rocou stick, but so vrai lar and I lookfor the commercial on the Youtube. It's not there. Nobody, Imean it's kind of gone now, but it showed a lady making like bologneysandwiches and peanut butter and Jelly sandwiches and she's sandwiches for like kids lunches andshe's going real good there for a minute and then she starts cutting like crazyand putting peanut butter on the cheese. It just fucking up all the sandwicheslike that looks like me. And then Vrai lar for bipolar disorder, andlike Oh it is me. That's a pretty good depictions. Just wonder ifanybody else with bipolar disorder has seen the new VERI lar commercial with the ladyfucking up all the sandwiches. It's probably have to try and find it nowI'd look. Yeah, totally, look on Youtube. Look very lar sandwichesor I don't know who's going to pull that out, but good stuff.Yeah, I want to talk more about mats. I'm starting to see anew psychiatrist shortly and I'll investigate meds, not hip on it, because I'mdoing okay without but I'm always open to new ideas. So we'll see howthat goes. And you just you started rail are you said? Yeah,we oh shit. Well, let's do a podcast in about a month fromnow. We'll see how that's going. That should be enough time to tellyeah, hopefully nice. Okay, what do you want to promote? Youwant to say anything before we cut this out? That be word one,that bewordcom, Becky at that be word. Canny much anything with that be word. You, guys, are hearing what she's thrown down right, you'repicking up what she's throwing down at that B word, just the letter BW R D, The number one at. That be word one. That's hertwitter handle and that's what that B Wordcom is where you can find allof her other goodies. and Oh here, listen to this for a quick giveme six seconds. Join the party at Bipolar Partycom, like she said. You could join the party at bipolar PARTYCOM. And Hmm, yeah,I'm good. Follow me at Jay Lily show on twitter and, of course, at bipolar style. Bipolar stylecom due to do. And let's kick itover to your stuff. And thanks for coming on again, back. Ireally appreciate you and well look forward to a mad update on the next episode, styles on cheese and five following on twitter joys. Excuse mecom.

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