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The ethics of offering health advice to individuals as untrained, unlicensed entertainers
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I oline Yokay, what's happening, welcome backto by polar style, I'm johnny motions, you're one and only hosts YEP, no morecohost, which brings me to the first topic of the day. So I've noticed on Youtube. There's alot of drama going on, I'm not going to name names. It's not important. What'simportant is that it happens. So there's a youtuber that sells untrained, andlicensedmedical advice for people with mental health issues or I'm sorry, maybemental illnesses. Whichever way you want to frame it and he got a lot ofshit for it, a lot of people are just jumping on him, mostly because hedipped his joe into the quote: Unquote Drama Community on Youtube- and Ididn't know this existed fascinating to me. So there's a thing called the dramacommunity. You know, and it's not about your local theater. You know group orit's not about the high school play. Nothing like that. It's literallypeople talking Shit about each other and gaining clicks. So Weird. I have noidea what what the kids are into these days, but anyway, these people aren'tkids. These are grown ass. Men, like me, getting involved with the dramacommunity. Mostly the drama community is younger women and younger dudes, a lotof seemely, maybe gay dudes. A lot of them are out. So I'm not like callingpeople gay that are not gay and there's nothing wrong with being gaye. Justsaying that that's the community and they love it. They all talk shit abouteach other and back and forth and include each other's names, ind theircomment sections and in their rideup. So anyway, this one outuber eventuallygot so much shit. He said: Well, I'm decided I'm going to pull back for aweek, I'm not going to post anything now granted. He didn't remove any ofthe fucking videos where he talks shit about everybody by name, but you know he's taken a break in theinteroum another. You Zuber was talking about the first guy by name and went on this kind of ranc about himfor about an hour also giving out his personal phone number his own, not theprevious Yousuper and at the end of his video he getsswatted. If you know what's what it is, when an anonymous caller callse thelocal police station by Your House and tells them that you're you and you justkilled your family and someone's tied up you've got a hostage so that thelocal police department sends out the SWAT team to your house. This is highlydangerous because people have been killed by not complying with officersand you know trigger happy cops and whatnot. So swatting is highlydangerous and it's something that apparently happens in the gamingcommunity a lot and maybe the drama community not really before in themental health community. So I found that whole thing fascinating, becauseit all started with one jackass offering unlicensed untrained mentalhealth advice for a price. So obviously that's unethical. Youcan't do that and as a podcaster, neither can we. We can't offer ouradvice on on your kid. On your brother, your sister, your mom, your dadwhoever's got a mental health issue. If you are listening to this podcast, I'msorry, but this is all the help I can provide you. I can steer you to a listof local like dbsa meetings, the depression and bypolar support alliance.They've got a great list of meetings. You can go. There meet other people,just like you in person, and it's really heartening. In fact, it saved mylife a couple of times, so I'm really big on dbsa medias, for example, youjust go to DB s alliance. Tat Org find...
...yourself a local meeting. If you haveto maybe start your own, I know that's asking a whole lot. I've almost had todo that myself and it's little too much so hopefully there's a DBSA meetingnear you. You can go to church meeting, they lotof grief, counselors a lot of pts G, PTSD meetings near military bases, andthings like that. I know you're, probably not in the military and youmay not go to church but DBSA helps. So what I'm saying is that I'm really anactivist I'm not an advocate, and how do you define that? So I found adefinition that kind of sat with me pretty well, and it said an activist isa person who makes an intentional action to bring about social orpolitical change. So for an example, Rosa parks was a civil ridts activistwho challenged racial Segregatini, one housand, nine hundred and fifty five byrefusing to give up he seat on the bus for a white man. Conversely, anadvocate is one who speaks on behalf of another person or group, and I don'tspeak on your behalf. I speak only on my behalf. I consider myself anactivist. I've been a political activist. I've been whatever ABJ mentalhealth activist if you will, but I don't speak for you and I'm not adoctor, I'm not a therapist. I cannot help you and neither can the CO hostthat I was trying out that person can't help you either. Maybe they can, but inmy mind it's highly unethical to offer advice that you're not trained orlicensed to offer, or maybe to put it more suscinctly anactivist is to speak. To be an activist. Is You speak to be? An advocate is tolisten, of course, some people might claim to be both, but that's kind ofrisky, because to be an activist, Youve really got to go. fucking balls outsometimes and literally throw your body on the gears of the machine. That's notspeaking for other people. An advocate would not do that because who said thatthe people, you're speaking for, would want you to do that. It's not a thingso decide if you're going to be an advocate and what your qualificationsare for being an advocate. If you're not trained, if you're not licensed, you know, tread real lightly on beingan advocate, because you don't know that you're speaking for other people,you should ask them first, if it's okay, to speak on their behalf, I'm anactivist bottom line. So anyway, I have like I built the show from scratch.Right I did everything I bought the gear learned, the software designe, theartwork build the website pay. The hosting company created the BipolarParty Forum, join the Party at bipolar PARTYCOM. Allthat Shit. That's on me! So it's like my art project and to have somebodycome in and scribble all over, my art, that's fucked up or maybe, if you had ahouse guest or one of my favorite examples is camping. If you camp a lot,you probably know what I'm talking about. So when you camp you go out andyou want to leave as little a footprint as possible, you don't want to disruptthe natural order when you're camping you tread lightly, don't disrupt thenatural order, find your place in the Wilderness and enjoy you don't gotrampling through the forest, cutting down trees, shitting all over the placewithout burying it. You know what I mean so really important to know yourrole and to stay in your lane, if you're not qualified to be in the otherland. If you don't have a license, if You'e never been to medical school,don't offer mental health advice to other people, especially specific otherpeople and taking it to a whole nother level. You can't accept gifts, youcan't accept money or any kind of gift to go, offer that help or engage inthose activities. So to me, it just crosses all kinds of ethical lines andI had to put an en to it and unfortunately, I had to go back anddelete all those episodes well, all six...
...of them, so I will redo the newbisguide to buy polar disorder by myself. If I have to Allik do acondensed version, which is more in line with my show anyway, I like tokeep it short and we'll put all that back up in due time, as you probably heard on the lastepisode, the quote Unquote intermission where I had to kind of apologize well,not kind of a did apologize. I think to anybody who thought I was quote:UNQUOTE: Med, shaming, that's not the case, not med, shaming anyone. However,if one of your recovery goals is to successfully function without drugs,it's okay, you can go ahead and celebrate your success. Don't letpeople gas lat you into thinking that their way is the only way becauseillness is not a contest. The one who consumes the most meds does not win. We're all just trying to feel better and again, you may have heard me say it onthe internet or out a Podcast, I'm an anarchist. I don't give a fuck what youput in your body. I just want you to feel better and, conversely, I don'tcare, if you don't put anything in your body. I read a book once when I was youngerabout a guy who went from being. You know regular amnevor, to become a avegetarian to become an a Vegan to become in a fruitarian, then anequitarian where he survived only on water and then he became an Eritarianwhere he learned to survive only on air. Obviously I think that's bullshit, butit's just it's fascinating that you know what people think is: Okay forthem or what might help them if you found something that works for youfucking, do it, but don't diminish people because they've successfullylived without medication anymore than somebody without meds diminishes othersfor taking them. It's just stupid argument. Why are you guys fightingabout that? So simply just TA RECAP: I find unlicensed untrained medical advice for mental health.Patience completely. Unethical, if you take this, show to be advice, don't bean idiot, I'm an entertainer. I've been an entertainer since I was a kid youknow. I've just done all kinds of things in that realm and I've neverconsidered myself anything but entertainer, and then an activist I'mnot a medical professional, I'm a guy suffering from bipolar. This is myjourney you're listening to this because you're following along,presumably- but I'm not here- to help you so unfortunately, if Youve got avery specific issue, don't call me I'm not giving out my fucking phone numberon the Internet, so people can swap me just I can send you all the informationI have about things in your area. I could point you to resources, you knowand frankly, that could be a service, I'm not getting involved with it. It'snot my forte, but if you want to help somebody with bureaucracy, cool, trythat that could work again tread lightly, though on accepting money orany kind of gift, because then it's implied that you're doing it in a quidproquoe fashion and you're, just not qualified to do that. Likewise, if you build somethingcontrol it it's yours to control, don't let people fuck with hoir projects, and you know because people can always gobuild their own half of the reason I do these podcast is to encourage otherpeople to do their own podcast and so be it so go to your own podcast.Don't come shit in my house, Shit in my woods or whatever and more importantly, don't appear asthough you're a user stipping on podcast to podcast the podcast. Youknow trying to make a name for yourself like you're, professional you're, not aprofessional you're, not a professional doctor you're, not a professionaltherapist you're, not a professional podcaster, get it together. Otherwise,you're a danger. You know, you're you creating Mayham for other people and itmay or may not work out, but that's not a gamble. I'm going to take with thisshow so anyway, no more cohost.
So one fun thing I did today it waskind of a fun thing precipitated by a not so fun thing it turns out. Someoneclose to me has erupted into this narcessisticpersonality disorder. None of the rest of us were aware of it fully. So I'm like Oh jeeze, I got to get outof here. I need some space to breathe. I cannot deal with NPD type folks. Iwas raised by one and I know all the tailtail signs, and I know when to back away so it's Tuesday and apparently in thistown, I'm in Tuesday is cheap movie day, so I went out and saw Captain Marvel,which was surprisingly good. I generally like Marvel Universe movies. I don't really have a favorite. I dolike some more than others, but this captain Marvelle one was fucking a lotbetter than I thought it would, let's give it that so I found it reallyinteresting, especially that they focused on emotions. So there wasthere's several scenes where the mentor and the Mente, let's call her, haddiscussions about how emotions are bad and emotions are not the soul of awarrior or some bullshit like that and by the end of the movie. It turns outthat controlling your emotions and using them appropriately are exactlythe things that will save the world. You know. So that's if nothing else gosee it for that message that controlling your emotions are thethings that can save the world stifling your emotions does not make you afucking warrior. You goof makes you more like a cave man and undeveloped,human that doesn't know how to deal with hemotions, because honestly, warriors have to have emotions to angerrage. Those are emotions you have to know when to control them and won notto control him, but lots of cool stuff, a lot of good connective tissue. Thatexplains many other parts of the rest of the Avenger's story. I thought thatwas really cool. We got to see why fury doesn't have an eye that was neat kindof like when in Solo, the Star Wars, one where we got to see Han Solu MitChubaka for the first time when we got to see him meet Lando Calrisian andwhen the Millennium Falkin was brand new. I liked solo for that and CaptainMarvill had a lot of origins pieces thrown in there, and I thought that wasexceptional and a lot of the other parts that we know from the other.avengers movies, both like Captain America, Solo movies, thor and whatnotkind of all come together with Captain Marvell, which sets up things prettynicely for next months. AVENGERS end game. I think that's what it is andgame yeah, so it looks pretty cool. You know I nowwhere I am now movies. Isn't the thing like when I was in San Franciscodowntown? I had a movie past is twenty bucks a month and I go see movies allthe time for twenty bucks, so I see far fewer movies now, but thatone was really cool. I like movies that deal with themotions in a kind ofupbeat positive way. They didn't beat you over the head with it and man the whole movie was like it was all women like, I think, waswomen. Co Directed Women leads and if not women, people of Color BlackPeople, let' say what does people say? People of colord we're all a color. Ithink black people like to be called black people, at least in two thousandand nineteen there's nothing wrong with be called black person oftentimes. Iwish I was a black person, so I could experience that to which my blackfriends Sayn, now you don't but anyway, so the whole movie was veryprogressive. In that sense, the only male lead that was white was not. I was not a good guy. Spoileralert, wait. The fuck spoiler learns. If you, if you don't want Ta movie,spoiled, Go see it when it opens we're not going to wait around a month foryou fucking get around and Oh no don't tell me, don't tell me, don't fuckinggo see the movie. If you want to know...
...otherwise we're going to talk aboutwe're not going to hold our conversation waiting for your dumb assto go, see the movie already go, see it. If you care about spoilers or not, butanyway, the one main white actor in the movie White Mailactor. He turns out to be the bad guy, which is a great flip on the on thewhole Hollywood script anyway join the party at Bipolar Partycom, soI went and saw a therapist last week, I'm going back again this week. Thatwas good. You know I kind of pulling it back together, haven't seen a therapistsince, like May of last year, so it's almost been a full year, maybe nine orten months since I've seen a therapist in that time between I've moved changedjobs a you know, a lot of high stress situations and I've not been onmedication. Since I left my last job and ran out of the insurance there,because I haven't, I don't honestly know where to sign up for insurance inthis town or how to even do that, because I'm not good at bureaucracy. Ithink I really do have adhd when it comes to things like dealing withbureaucracy, for example. So I go without insurance and without therapy.At any rate, I found a cool dude. He was like an ex cop and he's full oninto minimalism and he seems he's got kind of a Buddhist air to him, but I'mpretty sure he's a Christian which a COP Christian, therapist you're sayingwhat I thought the same thing, but the dudeseems pretty cool and I'm not going to disparage cops to his face or religion to his face or anythingbecause we're not we're not talking about labels in the sense of what wehave, and I think that's a new thing too. I noticed at Kaiser in California.She looked at my chart and saw bypolar disorder, but she shedidn't even Bancin it though she her whole thing was. It's called, I think,outcome based therapy where they talk about with you. You know we discuss how youwant to feel. What do you want to change in your life? We don't talkabout like the labels we don't reenforce hit. Oh will you have bypoller disorder sed. Therefore, you have to do Xy Andz, it's not like thatat all anymore, in modern therapy. Apparently it's all about. Well, how doyou feel? How would you like to feel differently, and I really appreciatedthat- and it got me to thinking that, maybe if we all focused on on that onthe outcome ar therapy or a progress or ourrecovery would be a lot easier if we just focused on how we wanted to feelwhich led me to my research of emotions and mood and just basic human affect,you know: Affectis, it's just our general cap state of being before moodor emotions come into play. A lot of people confuse the word effect withaffect when they write it down. It just affect with the A in the beginning,instead so check it out. Human Affect Moods, emotion, they're, all differentthings, similar and sort of related, but when it comes down to the way youfeel it's important to you know address which one of those that you're workingon so, in my case, I'm very reactive, I'm highly sensitive. If you will- andI react a lot which pulls up emotions- I just like reachingto, the bin ofemotions and pull up whatever comes up. Well, that's not entirely effective. Infact, a lot of times. That's counterproductive and much like inCaptain Marvell. I have to learn to control my emotions and use them in theproper way to rule the world or save the world or whatever the fuck. It wasso I'm going to focus more on emotions, iffact iy'm, going to do a show calledemotions where I just talk about emotions versus mood and each week oreach day, whenever I get on the Mike I'm going to discuss the emotion, I'mfeeling how I got to that emotion and how I can kind of control it. So,hopefully, again as an activist, I want to change the social and public view ofmental health and mental illnesses. So therefore, I think a show aboutemotions, especially coming from a dude,...
...might be helpful. We can talk aboutemotions, people say: Oh Yeah stivwl your emotions, they don't those peopledon't stifle their emotions, they run around angry enraged and all that theypretend like. That's, not an emotion people that say you got to stifle youremotions. They only mean you got to stifle the weak emotions, the ones theyconsider weak like crying or sensitivity or sensitivityis, notenmotion, but you get what I'm saying. So they want you to stifle only thefeminine emotions, but it's okay to embrace the mail emotions the moremacho. No, that's dumb we're going to dig deeper into emotions and mood andhow they both work together, so that we can feel better because the more Ifocus on by polar for example it just it circulates. I see a lot of us in thetwitter sphere. We keep circulating the same articles, I'm not sure if we're, Iknow where I get mine from I usually like read scientific papers or articlesbased on a scientific paper and I'm usually really quick on it and thenweeks later I'll see other bloggers talking about the same shit, so whetherwe're copying each other or all getting it from the same sources at differenttimes, we're kind of like in our own bubble and I'd like to break free ofthat a little bit more. By only focusing on emotions- and again it's only going to be myemotions, I'm not telling you how to have en motions, I'm not saying I'm anadvocate for you and your emotions. It's just going to be a continuation ofmy journey. How I'm working out my mood disorder by addressing the emotions andagain it's not going to be label based like well. What do you have? I haveborderline and I have bipolarand ptst and anxiety who gives the fuck? How doyou feel? Let's work on that? Let's work on how you feel now and how youwant to feel next and by focusing on the emotions, I think we'll be able toget a lot further, a lot faster, not that again, not that it's a contest,but in this case it's a fun contest. If it were a contest because we're justtrying to get better taking more man's is not going to make us better, it willjust cover the symptoms. More! You get me. In fact, I think I deleted a bunchof episodes where we talk about that a lot and that the mads, the drugs youtake for your mental disorders, for your neuroses they're only covering thesymptoms. Generally speaking, if you're chizophrenic they're actually somephysiological things that are happening there, but generally speaking, you haveto go and Reprogram your brain with new knowledge with new people and newlocations. If you're in a fucked up situation that all has to be changed.Otherwise the men's you just keep taking him and keep taking him andyou'll never actually be better. You might feel better until you stop takingthe drugs, but that's almost like addiction. It's not a diction, becausethe mechanism is different, but it's habitually addictive. It's a habit!You're habitually taking those drugs to make yourself feel better because Ohwellis me, I can't get out of bed. ICAN yeah, I get it! FUCK YEAH GET IT! I dothat all the time, but I don't say it: I don't get on the Internet and likepreach it, and you know what you put out in the world is what comes back toyou. If you're preaching that you're whining all the time about, I feel bad guess what that's the energy that'scoming back to you like attracts like that sounds like a dumb cliche, but ina way it works. I think Oprah talked about it, the law of attraction. Allthat Shit, I don't know, seems a little hokas focus to me, but in retrospect alot of it is just wisdom. If you, if you're friendly, if you smile morepeople, will smile back at you if you're whining, what is the old clichelaugh in the whole world laughs with you cry, and you cry alone. Well now wehave the Internet, and people can cry on the Internet and everyone will jumpin and cry with them. It's the most fucking crazy thing out there. It'slike depression. In that sense, I is contagious people just GE, depressedreading, other people's depressing shit...
...and the idea that suicide rates keepgoing up. That's because when you see suicide is a viable option on theInternet. All of a sudden, you think it's a viable option that shitscontagious too, not in the traditional sense of germs, but we've got to thinka lot more bigger picture than just germs. There's germs in the fuckingphotons coming off the light on your screens. In a sense, you know what Imean, what you don't know what I mean come on catch up so anyway. My next show I'm going to doit just called emotions it's already up in Itunes, but those are old episodeslike if you haven't been following that show here's how that went. I starteddoing one called matic episodes and I thought yeah. Now I'm justfocusing on my media. Then I had one called chaos up date, which I thoughtyeah, that's a cool name, but I'm like Oh wait. Now I'm just generating morechaos in my life, because I'm just focusing on the chaos, so the nature of those particular showsin the things tha talk about are not nearly as focused as the podcast thatwill become, which is simply called emotions, and in this sense I don't have aproblem simply focusing on my emotions, because once I focus on them, I canlearn to control them better. I could learn to pick the most appropriate oneand respond accordingly instead of reacting with the wrong emotion, so I hope you're able to check that out. My twitter handle is at Johnny motions, that's a lock to acount, so you have toask for permission to follow me there. I don't want to fucking Weirdosfollowing me and if you're a band or a brand, don't bother, I don't follow bands orbrands back because they're all trying to sell me something they're all tryingto send me their fucking demotape. You know what a demo tape is an obligation.It's not a gift. When you give somebody a demo tape, if you're in a band Damno,whatever demo tape, whatever you call it, it really is it's an obligation, justlike authors in their books and filmmakers in their films like herewatch this read this listen to this like notit's too much. That's too much,I'M NOT HERE TO LISTEN! I'm not an advocate, I'm an activist, I'm here tospeak, so maybe selfish, but whatever I just want to clear the air, I'm anactivist I'm going to talk, you can listen if you want to you fuckingdeleted, if you don't want to whatever I do appreciate you, though, there's alot of you out there, and I hope some of US resonates with you and if so,manfucking share it subscribe. There will be plenty more and again, it'sjust going to be me for the for the time being for the foreseeable future.Just me yeah, like it hate it whatever. I do. Takethe criticism to heart. So any time I get an email or a message or a call orwhatever I listen to it and I will make changes accordingly so long as it fitsin with the vision I have for the show overall cool all right enough about me.What about you? Oh wait! I'M NOT LISTENING TO YOU! I'm not an advocate all right. I got to get back to what Iwas doing in the other room, which was absolutely nothing. I was meditatingand stretching, and I think I'm going to go do some more of that tonight anddrink some water when the sun comes up and Goin to go play in the sunshine. Soin the meantime I will see you on twitter and have a fucking excellentday. Co On.
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