John | Podcasting
John | Podcasting

Episode · 3 years ago

The ethics of offering health advice to individuals as untrained, unlicensed entertainers


Johnny rants on the ethics of unlicensed, untrained entertainers offering advice to specific viewers and listeners, 'SWATting,' med shaming vs. clean shaming, protecting your brand, and the power of emotions in Captain Marvel.

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It's only and now it's online and Bible this stylecom emotions with Bible style. Okay, what's happening? Welcome back to bipolar style. I'm johnny emotions. You're one and only hosts. Yep, no more cohosts, which brings me to the first topic of the day. So I've noticed on Youtube there's a lot of drama going on. I'm not going to name names, it's not important. What's important is that it happens. So there's a youtuber that sells untrained, unlicensed medical advice for people with mental health issues or, I'm sorry, maybe mental illnesses, whichever way you want to frame it, and he got a lot of shit for it. A lot of people are just jumping on him, mostly because he dipped his toe into the, quote unquote, drama community on Youtube, and I didn't know this existed. Fascinating to me. So there's a thing called the drama community, you know, and it's not about your local theater, you know group, or it's not about the high school play, nothing like that. It's literally people talking Shit about each other and gaining cliques. So Weird. I have no idea what with kids are into these days, but anyway, these people aren't kids. These are grown ass men like me getting involved with the drama community. Mostly the drama community is younger women and younger dudes, a lot of seemingly maybe gay dudes. A lot of them are out. So I'm not like calling people gay that are not gay and there's nothing wrong with being gay, just saying that that's the community and they love it. They all talk shit about each other and back and forth and include each other's names and their comments sections and in their ride up. So anyway, this one youtuber eventually got so much shit he said, well, I'm decided, I'm going to pull back for a week. I'm not going to post anything now. Granted, he didn't remove any of the fucking videos where he talks shit about everybody by name, but you know he's taken a break. In the interim, another youtuber was talking about the first guy by name and went on this kind of rant about him for about an hour, also giving out his personal phone number, his own, not the previous Youtuber, and at the end of his video he gets swatted. You know what's Watt it is when an anonymous caller cause the local police station by Your House and tells them that you're you and you just killed your family and someone's tied up, you've got a hostage, so that the local police department sends out the SWAT team to your house. This is highly dangerous because people have been killed by not complying with officers and, you know, trigger happy cops and whatnot. So swatting is highly dangerous and it's something that apparently happens in the gaming community a lot and maybe the drama community, not really before in the mental health community. So I found that whole thing fascinating because it all started with one jackass offering unlicensed, untrained mental health advice for a price. So obviously that's unethical. You can't do that and as a podcaster, neither can we. We can't offer our advice on on your kid, on your brother, your sister, your mom or your dad, whoever's got a mental health issue. If you are listening to this podcast, I'm sorry but this is all the help I can provide you. I can steer you to a list of local like dbsa meetings, the depression and bipolar support alliance. They've got a great list of meetings. You can go there meet other people, just like you in person and it's really heartening. In fact, it's saved my life a couple of times. So I'm really big on DBSA meetings. For example, you just go to dbs alliance Dot Org,...

...find yourself a local meeting. If you have to, maybe start your own. I know that's asking a whole lot of almost had to do that myself and it's a little too much. So hopefully there's a dvs a meeting near you. You can go to a church meeting. They a lot of grief counselors, a lot of pts, PTSD meetings near military basis and things like that. I know you're probably not in the military and you may not go to church, but DBSA helps. So what I'm saying is that I'm really an activist, I'm not an advocate. And how do you define that? So I found a definition that kind of sat with me pretty well and I said an activist is a person who makes an intentional action to bring about social or political change. So, for an example, Rosa parks was a civil rights activist who challenge racial segregation in one thousand nine hundred and fifty five by refusing to give up re seat on the bus for a white man. Conversely, an advocate is one who speaks on behalf of another person or group, and I don't speak on your behalf. I speak only on my behalf. I consider myself an activist. I've been a political activist, I've been whatever. I'm just a mental health activist, if you will, but I don't speak for you and I'm not a doctor, I'm not a therapist. I cannot help you, and neither can the cohost that I was trying out. That person can't help you either. Maybe they can, but in my mind it's a highly unethical to offer advice that you're not trained or licensed to offer. Or maybe, to put it more succinctly, an activists is to speak. To be an activist as you speak. To be an advocate is to listen. Of course, some people might claim to be both, but that's kind of risky because to be an activist just you really got to go fucking balls out sometimes and literally throw your body on the gears of the machine. That's not speaking for other people. An advocate would not do that, because WHO said that? The people you're speaking forward wants you to do that. It's not a thing. So decide if you're going to be an advocate and what your qualifications are for being an advocate. If you're not trained, if you're not licensed, you know, tread real lightly on being an advocate because you don't know that you're speaking for other people. You should ask them first if it's okay to speak on their behalf. I'm an activist, bottom line. So, anyway, I have like I built the show from scratch right. I did everything about the gear, learned the software, design the artwork, build the website, pay the hosting company, created the Bipolar Party Forum, join the Party at Bipolar Partycom, all that Shit. That's on me. So it's like my art project and to have somebody come in and scribble all over my art that's fucked up. Or maybe if you had a house guest. Or One of my favorite examples is camping. If you can't a lot, you probably know what I'm talking about. So when you camp, you go out and you want to leave as little a footprint as possible. You don't want to disrupt the natural order. When you're camping, you tread lightly. Don't disrupt the natural order. Find Your place in the Wilderness and enjoy. You don't go trampling through the forest, cutting down trees, shitting all over the place without burying it, you know what I mean. So really important to know your role and to stay in your lane. If you're not qualified to be in the other lane, if you don't have a license, if you never been to medical school, don't offer mental health advice to other people, especially specific other people, and taking it to a whole nother level. You can't accept gifts, you can't accept money or any kind of gift to go offer that help or engage in those activities. So to me it just crosses all kinds of ethical lines and I had to put an end to it and unfortunately I had to go back and delete all those episodes, well all six of them. So I will redo the newbies guide to...

...bipolar disorder by myself, if I have to, all do a condensed version which is more in line with my show. Anyway. I like to keep it short and we'll put all that back up in due time. As you probably heard, on the last episode, the quote Unquote intermission where I had to kind of apologize, well, not kind of a did apologize, I think, to anybody who thought I was quote Unquote Med shaming. That's not the case. Not Med shaming anyone. However, if one of your recovery goals is to successfully function without drugs, it's okay. You can go ahead and celebrate your success. Don't let let people gasp like you into thinking that their way is the only way, because illness is not a contest. The one who consumes the most meds does not win. We're all just trying to feel better. And again, you may have heard me say it on the internet or out of podcast. I'm an anarchist. I don't give a fuck what you're putting your body. I just want you to feel better and, conversely, I don't care if you don't put anything in your body. I read a book once when I was younger about a guy who went from being, you know, regular Omnivore, to become a vegetarian, to becoming a Vegan, to becoming a fruitarian, then an Aquitarian, where he survived only on water, and then he became an Artarian, where he learned to survive only on air. Obviously I think that's bullshit, but it's just it's fascinating that you know what people think is okay for them or what might help them if you found something that works for you, fucking do it, but don't diminish people because they've successfully lived without medication, anymore than somebody without meds diminishes others for taking them. It's just stupid argument. Why are you guys fighting about that? So simply, just to recap, I find unlicensed, UN trained medical advice for mental health patients completely unethical. If you take this show to be advice, don't be an idiot. I'm an entertainer. I've been an entertainer since I was a kid it you know, I've just done all kinds of things in that realm and I've never considered myself anything but entertainer and then an activist. I'm not a medical professional. I'm a guy suffering from bipolar. This is my journey. You're listening to this because you're following along, presumably, but I'm not here to help you. So, unfortunately, if you've got a very specific issue, don't call me. I'm not giving out my fucking phone number on the Internet so people can swap me just I can send you all the information I have about things in your area. I could point to to resources you know, and frankly, that could be a service. I'm not getting involved with it. It's not my forte. But if you want to help somebody with purerocracy, cool, try that. That could work. Again, tread lightly, though, on accepting money or any kind of gift, because then it's implied that you're doing it in a quid pro quel fashion and you're just not qualified to do that. Likewise, if you build something, control it. It's yours to control. Don't let people fuck with your projects. And you know, because people could always go build their own. Half of the reason I do these podcasts to encourage other people to do their own podcast. and well, so be it. So go do your own podcast. Don't come shit in my house, Shit in my woods or whatever. And, more importantly, don't appear as though you're a user stepping on podcast to podcast to podcast, you know, trying to make an anime for yourself, like you're a professional. You're not a professional. You're not a professional doctor, you're not a professional therapist, you're not a professional podcaster. Get it together, otherwise you're a danger. You know you're you creating mayhem for other people and it may or may not work out, but that's not a gamble. I'm going to take with this show. So anyway, no more colost. So one fun thing I did today. It...

...was kind of a fun thing precipitated by a not so fun thing. It turns out someone close to me has erupted into this narcissistic personality disorder. None of the rest of us were aware of it fully. Some like, oh Cheez, I got to get out of here. I need some space to breathe. I cannot deal with in PD type folks. I was raised by one and I know all the tailtale signs and I know when to back away. So it's Tuesday and apparently in this town I'm in, Tuesday is cheap movie day, so I went out and saw Captain Marvel, which was surprisingly good. At generally like Marvel Universe movies. I don't really have a favorite. I do like some more than others, but this captain marvel one was fucking a lot better than I thought it would, let's give it that. So I found it really interesting, especially that they focused on emotions. So there's there's several scenes where the mentor and the Mentee, let's call her, had discussions about how emotions are bad and emotions are not the soul of a warrior or some bullshit like that. And by the end of the movie it turns out that controlling your emotions and using them appropriately are exactly the things that will save the world. You know. So that's if nothing else, go see it for that message that controlling your emotions are the things that can save the world. Stifling your emotions does not make you a fucking warrior, you goof makes you more like a caveman and undeveloped human that doesn't know how to deal with emotions, because, honestly, warriors have to have emotions to anger rage, those are emotions. You have to know when to control them and when not to control it. But lots of cool stuff, a lot of good connective tissue that explains many other parts of the rest of the avengers story. I thought that was really cool. We got to see why fury doesn't have an eye. That was neat, kind of like when in Solo, the Star Wars one, where we got to see Han Solo meet Chewbacca for the first time and we got to see and meet Lando Cal Rizzi in and when the Millennium Falcon was brand new. I like Solo for that, and Captain Marvel had a lot of origins pieces thrown in there and I thought that was exceptional. And a lot of the other parts that we know from the other avengers movies, both like Captain America, Solo Movies, thor and whatnot, kind of all come together with Captain Marvel, which sets up things pretty nicely for next month's avengers end game. I think that's what it is, end game. Yeah, so it looks pretty cool. You know, I don't where I am now movies, isn't the thing? Like when I was in San Francisco Downtown, I had a movie pass is twenty bucks a month and I'd go see movies all the time for twenty bucks. So I see far fewer movies now, but that one was really cool. I like movies that deal with emotions in a kind of upbeat, positive way. They didn't beat you over the head with it. And Man, the whole movie was like it was all women, like I think was women code directed, women leads and, if not women, people of Color, black people. Let's say what people say people of Color. We're all a color. I think black people like to be called black people, least in two thousand and nineteen. There's nothing wrong with be called black person. Often Times I wish I was a black person so I could experience that, to which my black friends saying, though, you don't. But anyway. So the whole movie was very progressive in that sense. The only male lead that was white was not a was not a good guy. Spoiler alert. Wait the fuck spoiler alerts if you if you don't want to movie spoiled, go see it when it opens. We're not going to wait around a month for you fucking get around and Oh no, don't tell me, don't tell me. No, fucking...

...go see the movie if you want to know. Otherwise we're going to talk about we're not going to hold our conversation waiting for your dumb ass to go see the movie already. Go see it if you care about spoilers or not. But anyway, the the one main white actor in the movie, White Male actor. He turns out to be the bad guy, which is a great flip on the on the whole Hollywood script. Anyway, join the party at Bipolar Partycom so I went and saw a therapist last week. I'm going back again this week. That was good, you know, I kind of pulling it back together. Haven't seen a therapist since like may of last year, so it's almost been a full year, maybe nine or ten months, since I've seen the therapist. In that time between I've moved, change jobs and, you know, a lot of high stress situations and I've not been on medication since I left my last job and ran out of the insurance there. Because I haven't I don't honestly know where to sign up for insurance in this town or how to even do that, because I'm not good at bureaucracy. I think I really do have adhd when it comes to things like dealing with bureaucracy, for example. So I go without insurance and without therapy. At any rate. I found a cool dude. He's like an ex cop and he's full on into minimalism and he seems he's got kind of a Buddhist air to him, but I'm pretty sure he's a Christian, which a COP Christian therapist. You're saying what I thought the same thing. The Dude seems pretty cool and I'm not going to disparage cops to his face or religion to his face or anything, because we're not we're not talking about labels in the sense of what we have and I think that's a new thing too. I noticed at Kaiser in California. She looked at my chart and saw bipolar disorder, but she she didn't even mention it, though she her whole thing was it's called, I think, outcome based therapy, where they talk about with you, you know, we discuss how you want to feel. What do you want to change in your life? We don't talk about like the labels. We don't reinforce that, oh well, you have bipolar disorder, so therefore you have to do x, Y and Z. It's not like that at all anymore. And modern therapy, apparently it's all about well, how do you feel? How would you like to feel differently, and I really appreciated that and it got me to thinking that maybe if we all focused on on that, on the outcome, our therapy or a progress or our recovery, would be a lot easier if we just focused on how we wanted to feel, which led me to my research of emotions and mood and just basic human affect. You know, affect is it's just our general kind of state of being before mood or emotions come into play. A lot of people confuse the word effect with affect when they write it down, it just affect with the a and the beginning instead. So check it out. Human effect, moods, emotion, they're all different things, similar and sort of related, but when it comes down to the way you feel, it's important to you, you know, address which one of those that you're working on. So in my case, I'm very reactive, I'm highly sensitive, if you will, and I react a lot, which pulls up emotions. I just like reach into the bin of emotions and pull up whatever comes up. Well, that's not entirely effective. In fact, a lot of times that's counterproductive and much like in Captain Marvel, I have to learn to control my emotions and use them in the proper way to rule the world or save the world or whatever the fuck it was. So I'm going to focus more on emotions. In fact, I'm going to do a show called emotions where I just talk about emotions versus mood and each week or each day, whenever I get on the mic, I'm going to discuss the emotion I'm feeling, how I got to that emotion and how I can kind of control it. So, hopefully, again as an activist, I want to change the social and public view of mental health and mental illnesses. So, therefore, I think a show about emotions, especially coming from a dude, might be helpful. We can... about emotions. People say, Oh, yes, stifle your emotions. They don't. Those people don't stifle their emotions. They run around angry, enraged and all that. They pretend like that's not an emotion. People that say you got to stifle your emotions, they only mean you got to stifle the weak emotions, the ones they consider weak, like crying or sensitivity. Or sensitivity is not an emotion. You get what I'm saying. So they want you to stifle only the feminine emotions, but it's okay to embrace the male emotions, the more Mancho now that's dumb. We're going to dig deeper into emotions and mood and how they both work together so that we can feel better, because the more I focus on bipolar for example, it just it's circulates. I see a lot of us in the twitter sphere. We keep circulating the same articles. I'm not sure if we're. I know where I get mine. Front I usually like read scientific papers or articles based on a scientific paper, and I'm usually really quick on it and then weeks later I'll see other bloggers talking about the same shit. So, whether we're copying each other or all getting it from the same sources at different times, we're kind of like in our own bubble and I'd like to break free of that a little bit more by only focusing on emotions. And again, it's only going to be my emotions. I'm not telling you how to have emotions. I'm not saying I'm an advocate for you and your emotions. It's just going to be a continuation of my journey how I'm working out my mood disorder by addressing the emotions. And again, it's not going to be label based like well, what do you have? I have borderline and I have bipolar and PTSD and anxiety. Who gives a fuck, how do you feel? Let's work on that. Let's work on how you feel now and how you want to feel next. And by focusing on the emotions, I think we'll be able to get a lot further, a lot faster. Not that again, not that it's a contest, but in this case it's a fun contest, if it were a contest, because we're just trying to get better, taking more MED's is not going to make us better. It will just cover the symptoms. More you get me, in fact, I think I deleted a bunch of episodes where we talk about that a lot and that the MED's the drugs you take for your mental disorders, for your neuroses. They're only covering the symptoms, generally speaking. If you're schizophrenic, they're actually some physiological things that are happening there, but generally speaking you have to go and Reprogram your brain with new knowledge, with New People and new locations. If you're in a fucked up situation, that all has to be changed. Otherwise, the MED's you just keep taking them and keep taking them and you'll never actually be better. You might feel better until you stop taking the drugs, but that's almost like addiction. It's not addiction because the mechanism is different, but it's habitually addictive. It's a habit. You're habitually taking those drugs to make yourself feel better because, oh, woe is me, I can't get out of bed. I can't. Yeah, I get it. Fuck, yeah, I get it. I do that all the time, but I don't say it. I don't get on the Internet and like preach it and you know, what you put out in the world is what comes back to you. If you're preaching that, you're wine and all the time about I feel bad. Guess what, that's what the energy that's coming back to you like attracts like that. Sounds like a dumb cliche, but in a way it works. I think Oprah talked about it, the law of attraction, all that Shit. I don't know, seems a little hocus focused to me, but in retrospect a lot of it is just wisdom. If you if you're friendly, if you smile more, people will smile back at you. If you're whining, what is the old cliche? Laugh and the whole world laughs with you, cry and you cry alone. Well, now we have the Internet and people can cry on the Internet and everyone will jump in and cry with them. It's the most fucking crazy thing out there. It's like depression in that sense. Is is contagious. People just depressed reading other people's depressing shit and...

...the idea that suicide rates keep going up. That's because when you see suicide as a viable option on the Internet, all of a sudden you think it's a viable option. That shit's contagious to not in the traditional sense of germs, but we've got to think a lot more bigger picture than just germs. There's germs in the fucking photons coming off the light on your screens, in a sense. You know what I mean? What you don't know what I mean? Come on, catch up. So, anyway, my next show I'm going to do it just called emotions. It's already up in Itunes, but those are old episodes. Like, if you haven't been following that show, here's how that went. I started doing one called manic episodes and I thought, yeah, now I'm just focusing on my mania. Then I had one called chaos update, which I thought, yeah, that's a cool name, but I'm like, Oh, wait, now I'm just generating more chaos in my life because I'm just focusing on the chaos. So the nature of those particular shows, in the things I talked about, are not nearly as focused as the podcast that will become, which is simply called emotions. And in this sense I don't have a problem simply focusing on my emotions because once I focus on them, I can learn to control them better, I can learn to pick the most appropriate one and respond accordingly instead of reacting with the wrong emotion. So I hope you're able to check that out. My twitter handle is at John Emotions. That's a lock to count. So you have to ask for permission to follow me there. They don't want to fucking Weirdos following me. And if you're a band or a brand, don't bother. I don't follow bands or brands back because they're all trying to sell me something. They're all trying to send me their fucking demo tape. You know what a demo tape is? An obligation. It's not a gift. When you give somebody a demo tape, if you're in a band, demo whatever, Demo tape, whatever you call it, it really is. It's an obligation, just like authors and their books and filmmakers in their films. Like here, watch this, read this, listen to this. I'm like, that's too much. It's too much. I'm not here to listen. I'm not an advocate, I'm an activist. I'm here to speak. So maybe selfish, but whatever. Just want to clear the air. I'm an activist. I'm going to talk. You can listen if you want to. You fucking deleted if you don't want to. Whatever. I do appreciate you, though. There's a lot of you out there and I hope some of this resonates with you, and if so, man, fucking share it, subscribe. There will be plenty more. And again, it's just going to be me for the for the time being, for the foreseeable future, just me. Yeah, like it, hate it, whatever. I do take the criticism to heart. So anytime I get an email or a message or a call or whatever, I listened to it and I will make changes accordingly, so long as it fits in with the vision I have for the show. Overall, cool. All right, enough about me. What about you? Oh wait, I'm not listening to you. I'm not advocate. All right, I got to get back to what I was doing in the other room, which was absolutely nothing. I was meditating and stretching and I think I'm going to go do some more of that tonight and drink some water. When the sun comes up, I'm going to go play in the sunshine. So in the meantime I will see you on twitter and have a fucking excellent day. Chow styles on I cheese a five following on twitter. Joy Excuse me,.

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