John | Podcasting
John | Podcasting

Episode 130 · 1 month ago

This is when everything changes ...

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

This transitonal episode explains how John finally came up with a new name for the podcast he records at his studio, Emo Dojo. What once started as Bipolar Style in 2016, is now Signal Drops in 2022. We cover podcast intro music (with examples), the evolution of a name, how to include guests, and more. 

This is where everything changes. Hey, it's John. So if you've been listening for a long time, things are going to change, but not that much to outsiders. Things will look way different to new people coming on than they have in the past. For old listeners, I've been doing this particular podcast, let's call it, basically putting the same audio files in the same RSS feed, for about six years. Of changed host a number of times and there's been a couple of spinoff podcasts, but generally speaking it's you, it's the same folks, it's the same people that have been listening to me John Podcast for a long time. So to you, I just wanted to give you an update and let you know why I'm doing it, how I'm doing it and what exactly I'm doing, because podcasting is really great hobby for me. So I'm always taking the time to tweak and and fix things and make things better and just kind of grow with it at some point. Well, like I do this at work also. This is not my work podcast, but I have a podcast for work which is much more commercial based and geared toward a specific thing, which is to get people to come buy things from our company. So that's different and then there are, of course, podcast what's the whole purpose is? The podcast itself makes money by way of advertising, which is a different thing, and I'm working on another project with somebody else for that. All all that aside, this one that I've been calling emo Dojo, for lack of a better name or lack of no name, is my hobby podcast. So in the next twenty minutes or so we'll go over some earlier examples of my intro music and how I changed the name of this podcast a couple of times, the concept of the podcast, and then I'll give you an update on where we're going moving forward, which, like I said, it should be kind of fun and if you've been along for the ride this long you'll probably enjoy where it's going moving forward. Cool. So one last time let me drop this rock and roll, as they call it, wrestling music, intro right here. I'll do that all right. So that music is actually a file my friend gave me from some recording sessions. It's original music by my longtime brother Ray. We grew up together. His family took me in when I was kicked out of the house when I was a fourteen. So it's kind of like my adopted family anyway. So Yeah, Ray I, when I called him, I'm like, Dude, I need some music, and I'll get to that in a second. But Anyway, that's Ray levou out there in the bay area, San Francisco area, rocking out. And that file is simply called another heavy thing and I've been using it a lot often on because it's free. We don't have to pay for we own the music. It's just there and I've got a couple other tracks and that was my favorite one. But before that track and before I just dropped the name that the show was originally called a bipolar style to just the name of my studio, Emodojo, I've had other intros and other different types of music and I was listening to some as I was cleaning out my digital files the other day and it is a kind of a cool little trip down memory lane. So this first one is interesting and I love it. It kind of captures the whole essence of why I wanted to start a podcast, including, you know, my ego and the rock and roll and the bombastic intro and everything. The only downside was that it's just too long when you produce a podcast that meant to be. You know, binged. You got to have podcast intros that are short so they don't have to hear the same fucking intro. You know, a minute long intro for a...

...fifteen minute long podcast its way too ridiculous. And the more I listen to podcast, the more I'm thinking, man, intro should be next to nothing, just the tone, just the note to remind me that I'm on the right feed or whatever. But aside from that, the INTRO, it doesn't need to be that long. That said, this was the very first intro I put together for my podcast when it was called bipolars style. Give a listen to this real quick. You don't understand. I could class, I could have been a contemner, I could have been somebody. Dude, if it's going to be that kind of part, I won't think my thinking about Johnny. So it's pretty cool, right. It's kind of conveys the sense of chaos and fun I'd like to try to have on the show. Maybe if that was the theme song, then people would hear the type of show I was trying to make. Anyway, it's still it's just too long. It's too fucking long. So then, and I lived prior down right next to skid row and downtown Los Angeles, and then I had moved up to a section of San Francisco called the tenderloin, which is equally crazy, and I've always had this dystopic view of how life was anyway. And one of my favorite films is called Brazil by Terry Gilliam and the Intro Song from Brazil was always fascinated to me when it's juxtaposed against the fucked up living conditions on the streets right. So I went in and just whipped together a much shorter kind of intro that sounded kind of weird and distopic. I don't know if people understood it that way, but that's how I meant it, and it sounded like this. Welcome back to bipolar style, the podcast for bipolar people and those who love them. Join US online at by polar stylecom and now use your host, Johnny emotion. So there's a lot going on there. Obviously you can't use unlicensed, copyrighted music in any official capacity. So yeah, that's kind of a strike there. I knew that when I was putting it together, so it didn't really matter, but don't copy my example. In that case. The upside though, or what I thought did work if I had used original music, was the voice I bought from fiver, so that Gal's voice. got that off of fiver and I think it costs me like, I don't know, Fifty Bucks and I gave her like a twenty five tip or something like that, and she read a whole bunch of lines. I have a whole bunch of her talking like that, because you sounded kind of like, well, not me. Sounds like a female's voice and kind of upbeat and pleasant and something that might entice you to stay and listen to a podcast if you heard that voice right. It also, I think, represented my official commitment to using that nickname John Emotions, like that stage named John Emotions. And Yeah, so that was that again. You know, eventually I'm like, Ah Shit, I can't use license music if I want this to grow, because I might get kicked off the platform for one or might get this podcast episode muted or whatever. I did think I had two good experience dance with fiver. So I went back to fiver and just looked for somebody to do a fullblown podcast introduction or intro or whatever. Not sure what I looked up, but you know, I literally look at and listen to probably a hundred different five accounts trying to find something that I don't know fit the mood I was going for or the vibe or something, and then something just stood out. So, while this wasn't the first kind of sound I was looking for, it really jumped out at me. It was...

...by a provider on a fiver called you STA, and I think he lives up in the Nordic countries or something like that. Kind of a Swedish name, Jooste your Sta. Anyway, this, if this were star wars, this next intro would be the original episode for straight on Storm Trooper version all that. It's only now it's online Bible. This stylecom emotions with Bible style. That's a classic right. So, anyway, it really good and I loved it. I started to have a kind of an identity crisis with the show idea because of the name bipolar style. I originally called it bipolar style because I don't like the word disorder, because there is no baseline order for the quote unquote unbalanced chemicals. In your mind, there is no standard with the chemicals something like. It's not actually this order. It's more of a yes style. So I like the style part. However, it turns out people don't like sharing things when you use the word bipolar. Not Ironically. It's okay to say the weather's bipolar, Haha, funny memes and share all that shit, but if you're actually talking about bipolar disorder, people don't like to share that. So I started toying around with other interesting names. That would means sword of the same thing, but they also were sort of the same thing. So this first one was just me kind of riffing off the Jackass intro and I was starting to call the show manic episodes. I'm John with a bipolar style and these are the manic episodes. Yeah, so that one makes me cringe a little bit now. However, it does capture a lot of the right ideas. So I had modified the name of the PODCAST and I changed it up in the you know, Seo settings and all that, the description for the show at the platform, and I was trying to move away from the word bipolar right and I kept it nice and short and I was also using original music and I just didn't like the way I just come on there and was started off cold with I'm John, like who gives a fuck, shut up, sit down. But clearly I was having issues with the production of the show, not the production as much as the direction of the show. Now, by this point I had moved to Louisiana and I thought it might be a good idea to try to find a cohost, which was utter disaster. And Strangely, the intro for that period kind of sounds like a cluster fuck to it's a little bit of the original stormtrooper kind of intro mixed with a little bit of the another heavy thing from ray and it just blas all together and it kind of sounded like this, it's our Yad and now it's online at bi color soundcom. All right. So I kind of had to cut that one short because the announcer then announces the cohost name and we had a pretty bad falling out and I don't speak that person's name now. But anyway, you could tell by the intro like as just a message. Just look, let's blend all the shit together and one thing, which it's not usually a good idea, hmm, but I tried to make it work, at least in my hypomanic state of mind, I guess, anyway. So I really liked another heavy thing, rays music. Oh by the way, ray also played the music for the thing with hey you guys. So basically that was re playing guitar that was read a Morano doing...

...the hey you guys on the earlier one, and then the clip from the Marlon Brando movie and the Johnny Carson Guy Ed McMahon. Well, I just, you know, stripped all that stuff away and went right back to another heavy thing without any intro, and I thought that that was a lot cleaner. It's the one you hear a lot past the year or so, which is just this classic right here. So that's where we stand up till now, with intro music and theme songs, if you will, but the whole thing. So I mentioned it about a year ago. I was having troubled like I don't know what I want to actually call the show, and I just it wasn't a high priority. So I just said Emo Dojo. That's actually the name of the studio I record in and I had always thought that the show itself needed its own name and you know, kind of deserved its own name eventually, if I came up with a good enough one, because Emo Dojo is a killer name. For the studio Great Seo. You know search engine optimization. If you look for Emo Dojo, it's like the first page or two of results. That's fucking awesome. And it's also become the number one bipolar disorder podcast for like a year running. And I don't mean on the kind of APPs and little communities where you have to be voted by your community. I'm talking by ones that are searched by domain authority and actual domain traffic and downloads and things like that. So I appreciate that. It doesn't really mean anything to me in the sense of like monetary compensation or anything like that because, of course, if it's always been a hobby podcast, and for the main reason is, who am I going to take money from? I'm not taking money from pharmaceutical companies or therapy APP companies or anybody charging my listeners a monthly fee for anything. I don't charge a feat so I'm not going to take money from somebody else who was charging a fee for any of that stuff. So inherently these type of shows don't make money, but it's nice to know that the work you put into your hobby results in, you know, you having a podcast that's well regarded in that sense. So, as a hobbyist, I want a new challenge and I don't want to keep talking about mental health and mental illness. I have a mental illness. Why I don't want to keep talking about it. I'm and I've mentioned this that several episodes of the past few years. It's just it brings you back down. If I'm trying to live a normal life, I should focus on normal life things, or at least fun things. Right. It doesn't all have to be listening to the next person's story about I got depression and anxiety. I got depression and anxiety, I got an anxiety and depression. I mean will fuck okay, and people with the hardcore diseases, the bipolar, the psychosis and things like that, they don't want to come talk about it on a show like this and it's really hard to get anybody to open up about that stuff. So all of the guests I've ever had running a show called bipolar style or even Emo Dojo, you know, that's really brave thing for them to do, to the speak up and share their their emotional problems with the world. Anonymously or not, it's still a brave thing to do and I appreciate them doing that and people have told me they appreciate me doing it as well, like sharing my story. But whatever, we could do more things on this particular show. If there's tons of other shows in the past six years. Oh my God, there's so many other shows that are basically the same fucking thing I've been doing all this time anyway. And since I'm not like invited on their shows or in their little click, fine go. You know, there's tons of other mental health podcasts to go listen to. So let's make this one, our show, the one that I do for you and that you've been listening to. Let's expand and do something else. Let's listen and talk about different topics other than mental health. One of my main concerns with getting guests for Mental Health podcasts was that you get people that are not podcasters wanting to be guessed, so there's inevitably audio and technical...

...problems that you run into. Well, what we're going to do moving forward is I'm going to have other podcasters come on and we're going to talk about interesting topics and more of a round table kind of set up. So my thought is to get three or four people on each episode a mixture of people, different perspectives, different lifestyles, different backgrounds, talking about one common and interesting topic. It'll be thought provoking but not provocative. I'm not trying to roll anybody or, you know, put headlines or pay, you know, just click bait type of episode titles, anything like that. It's more of let just this ponder life's bigger questions so we can get to the heart of the matter. And there's a lots of independent podcasters out there that show up by themselves, get on a mic, record, edit, upload, promote, they do the whole thing. They're doing that without any pay or anybody else's help. Those of the people that I want to connect with and talk about interesting topics, so they don't have to grind all week and just to figure out what they got to do to keep an episode up. Well, they can come on over to the EMO Dojo studio here. You know, I vicariously through technology and we can record an episode about almost anything, as long as it's interesting and uplifting. So, like I said, I was talking about how hard it is to come up with a cool name. I worked for naming companies and marketing firms in the past, so I take the naming thing pretty seriously and there's no rush to name your podcast. In my mind, this is all in just my perspective. So here's how I came up with the names. Back many years ago, Gary, my friend, my brother and one of my producers that I work with frequently because we went to broadcasting school together, so I know that he knows his shit well. When I had moved to San Francisco the first time, it turned out that San Francisco has a fantastic community access TV program and we effectively started our own Wayne's world TV show in San Francisco that went out over the air fun. We had a blast. It was called TV pirates, like we were taking over the airwaves, and we kind of framed it that way, like ay too crazy guys took over the TV station because the place we did it called BAYVAC, Bay area video coalition. They didn't care as long as we were cool and that we respected the equipment and everything, and as so long as we didn't get any complaints from the people in San Francisco. Well, San Francisco is crazy. They're not going to complain about anything on the TV. There's nothing we could have done in that studio on live TV at Bay Vac. That would have generated any complaints, so we were free to do what we wanted to. So that was called TV pirates. Later, as it moved on to the Internet, I wanted to call it signal pirates because we're just like hey, we're taking over the signals. Instead. Well, signal pirates was taken in many different forms and I'm like fuck, can't you signal pirates? We did a podcast for I don't know, dozens of episodes called signal jams, which is kind of cool. Pretty cool name. Still a pretty cool name. I have issues a little bit obsessively with words, so I can't focus on the word jams and I'm like jams, just like Jelly and preserves and jams. And even as a musician I'm like no, you fucking idiot. Like jams, you know, you get a get on the air and jam, like we're going to Improv some bits on the podcast and just jam. We've signal jams. So it was easy enough for me to sell to like Gary as an idea for name anyway, and the podcast was cool. The podcast eventually got completely pulled off of anchor because it used copyrighted music and that was before they allowed it. So Anyway, signal jams was always pretty close. I just didn't know. I didn't know like what the...

...logo look like. We're using like skulls and heavy metal imagery and things like that. I'm like yeah, it's yeah, it's fine, it's okay, it's not. Doesn't hit home. It's not a big audience show. And we had already tried a heavy metal specific show called thrashbacks, which was all about us talking about the old shows and the good old times, the metal days and things like that, but that felt a little two pigeoned old. We didn't just want to talk about heavy metal or nostalgia. I didn't just want to talk about mental health. On emodojo and signal jams. Great Name But, like I said, I was stuck on the word jams. I'm like a signal jams and plus jams kind of has a negative connotation, like traffic jams, things like that. So it wasn't quite right. It was like eighty seven percent, which is fucking yeah, irritating to me. It could be better. So I kept looking around and then several weeks ago, Gary and I we're trying to get on. I was doing some shit. Whatever he lived, where he lives or the way his house is constructed. It just has a bad phone signal. So he was trying to send me a youtube video or something and it ends up sending like three fucking times. I'm like, Dude, enough with the and enough with the fucking youtube video. I get it and it's like those not my fault. Is a signal drops you, just like one line in his text back to me was signal drops, and like a fucking classic Gary, Signal Drops, Gary, Gary, Gary. But I'm a little spectra me in this sense, and well, maybe in the in the real sense, but I pick up on crazy interesting things from a different perspective, so I hear and see phrases differently. So when I saw the word signal drops in my text, I'm like wait, hold it, that's actually a dope fucking name for a show. Not Signal Jams, but signal drops. So, in other words, because nowadays we used to launch albums, but nowadays people drop albums and they drop new episodes, they they drop things, I'm like, Oh, signal drops, and it actually works out really well because then we can get the different signals from all the other podcasters to drop their signals in our podcast, in the words, you know, give us their hot take on the daily current events and news items, and you know. So with the and then within seconds, if not minutes, I'm on my computer, like pulling up my design programs and go hmm, drops, and I'm like, I need a new logo that's not black and white, it's not a face, is completely different, and I just start fucking route them with drops and made a little drop logo. It's enough to where people like, Huh, I don't know what this means. I'll give it a shot, but really, between you and me, it's going to be a cool sounding podcast made by and for people with mental illnesses. I guess that's going to be our secret. I may actually delete all the episodes older than this one. That's a bipolar style or Emo Dojo. We might start fresh, why not? But no, it's still me and it's basically the same podcast with just a few extra people that I've managed to corral in here to have a new podcast experiment with. And also, when you come up with the name for a podcast or a project or a band or anything really, man you got to cover all the details because consistency matters. So before you settle on a name, make sure you can get that the at handle on the fucking you know, social platforms you want to be on. That's important. So of course, signal drops. Go to twitter. We're there. Signal dropscom. That was available. So you can go to signal dropscom and it'll take you right to this podcast, just like Emo Dojo does. So if you're old school, you can go to Emo dojocom bring you to the podcast. If you just got here, you just notice signal drops, so go to signal dropscom. These are important.

Like if you come up with the name for a podcast, go check. There's in fact a website called name checkcom and am hkcom named, and just type in the name you want to use. It'll tell you if it's available. On instagram, twitter, facebook, fucking Linkedin, whatever, it will tell you if thecom's available. All these things are important and it only takes about five extra seconds to go to that website instead. So when you come on up with the name, do a little research and it will go a long way. So yeah, signal drops is the new name for this podcast. We're still recording at EMO Dojo. So if you ever hear me mention Emo Dojo. That's where we record. In fact, I think, for to keep like a slight thread of continuity, I will probably put the producer of this podcast as Emo Dojo and I'll let John Emotions fade off into the background or even the past. I'll just call myself John. With the New People, we're just all going to be on our first name basis. It'll be John, and you know Gary and roam and all. You know all the other people have talked to and you know the one thing I like about signal drops. It kind of reminds me of candy drops. In other words, it reminds me both of like candy crush land and wreck it Ralph and the Matrix like signal drops. When there's like a glitch in the signal actually drops. That's the moment that we want to get in your head. But it also sounds like candy. So what does that sound like? Well, I have an idea, and getting back to my idea, that we don't need a fucking gigantic intro every time, because the podcast episodes are going to be timed. I'm going to try to keep them like right at two thousand and twenty five minutes each time and because of that you're going to be hearing the logo, then the logo noise, the theme music, however you want to call it, you're going to be hearing that frequently. So I wanted to go with something really simple and effect this tone. When I tweaked on it, when I was playing with the keyboard, I just liked it so much that I've kept it around for a long time trying to find a good podcast that would go along with this tone. So moving forward, the signal drops music, the signal drops sound tone. It's going to sound like this. What it's boring. Nah, I think it's just right because I listened to podcast in the car and sometimes when I'm going to bed and I don't want a jarring podcast theme music every time the podcast ends. So if it's just a subtle little tone like that, I think that's perfect. So that's it. That's all this podcast is it just explaining the transition. I've got one more guest for what I'll call a hybrid episode, because I've recorded the interview when the show was Emo Dojo. So he signed up as an Emo Dojo guests, so I want to respect that and keep that in contained and as an EMO dojo episode. But, as you'll hear in that episode that's coming up next, the conversation we had basically alludes to the fact that we're just going to start talking together on the regular and make it a more of a round table, cohosted or recurring guest host type of show. So, that said, I'll let you go. I appreciate you sticking around and and now back to the wall.

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